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- From: lapoint@adm.brl.mil (Claude Lapointe)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
- Subject: RE: MacPlus failure (SUMMARY)
- Message-ID: <34174@adm.brl.mil>
- Date: 20 Nov 92 14:52:03 GMT
- Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
- Organization: Ballistic Research Lab (BRL), APG, MD.
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- Posted this earlier, but it hasn't appeared, so here it is again.
- Sorry if it's a duplicate.
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- Earlier I posted (abbreviated)
-
-
- MacPlus, one of the earlier 1 meg versions, display collapsed to a
- single bright vertical line in middle of screen. Other symptoms:
-
- 1- for some time, there had been intermittent screen jitter, as if
- small groups of and individual scan lines would rapidly oscillate
- laterally a few pixels
-
- 2- for some time, displayed objects were narrower the closer to the
- right edge of the display they appeared
-
- 3- very shortly before failure, several repetitions of single scan
- lines flashing very bright, giving the impression of a spark
-
- 4- powering down, waiting 15-30 minutes or so, and restarting causes
- everything to work, apparently correctly, for about 10-20 minutes
- or so, then failure
-
- I indicated this seemed to be the oft reported video failure and asked for
- suggestions and sources of supply.
-
- A responder asked me to assist him, so here is a summary of responses
- and of information from earlier posts.
-
- Thanks to all who provided info.
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Books:
-
- Macintosh Repair and Upgrade Secrets
- Larry Pina, Hayden Books, 1990, $32.95
- ISBN 0-672-48452-8
-
- Dead Mac Scrolls
- Larry Pina, Goldstein & Blair, 1992, $32
- ISBN 0-940235-25-0
-
- Chilton's Guide To Macintosh Repair and Maintenance
- Gene Williams, Chilton Book Company, 1986, $13.95
- ISBN 0-8019-7639-1
-
- book out by Sam's, called something like "How to Repair
- and Upgrade Your Mac"
-
- Pina's books are highly acclaimed, and reputed to contain specific
- instructions for repairing my problem and many others. Individual
- parts are identified. Pina's 1990 book is superseded by the 1992 one.
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- There was agreement that my problem is indeed the typical flyback
- and/or cold solder joint and/or bad capacitor problem.
-
- It was generally thought that people with soldering experience, attention
- to detail, and willingness to be careful (to avoid mechanical/thermal
- damage to the board itself, electrical (including static)/thermal damage
- to components, and high voltage (DANGER) damage to themselves.
-
- My solution was to order the $55 kit from Soft Solutions. For $12 extra
- they include coil L2, but state it's almost never needed - if it is,
- they'll supply it later at the same cost as if ordered with the kit. I
- chose the kit over just the J1 connector and C1 capacitor because I
- wanted maximum assurance I wouldn't have to do a 2nd repair. I avoided
- the L2 coil because it probably isn't necessary, and because (I think)
- it requires an adjustment, with which I didn't want to fuss. SS provides
- 2nd day delivery for $6, 72 hour turnaround if they do the repair.
- They provide 12 mo warranties either way, but the warranty covers
- more stuff if they do the repair.
-
- I well might have had G.E. Computer swap the board had I received that
- response sooner.
-
- From repost by Werner about Mac repairs:
-
- > Ideally, you need a long shaft Torx driver (similar to a hex key, but
- > not the same) to get to the screws in the case handle. You can GET BY
- > with a long, narrow-bladed, flat screwdriver. It will fit into
- > the slots in the Torx nut. Be careful not to strip it out.
- > *
- > * DO NOT use a flat screw-driver; do NOT ADVISE to use such
- > * a screw-driver; I am certain that more than 50% of people
- > * who'd try would ruin the screws! The cheapest way I have
- > * seen a TORX-substitue screw-driver done, was buying the
- > * right-sized (15, I believe) Torx head for a drill (<$1),
- > * a little 10 cents plastic tube (used in the American toilet
- > * flushing mechanism) that is just the right size (hollow)
- > * to stick the Torx head in, and hold it securely in place),
- > * stick it into the screw and use a pair of pliers to grip
- > * the tube at the other end and (have enough leverage to)
- > * turn...]
-
- In addition, various parties have claimed ther is a need for a special tool
- to pop the case open. I opened my Mac some time ago to add memory - don't
- remember what I used for screwdriver/torx (perhaps I borrowed a torx),
- but I do remember I did not need a special tool to pop open the case.
- Perhaps just my hand, perhaps a screwdriver.
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Sources of supply/repair
-
- Soft Solutions individual parts, complete kits,
- 907 River Road - Suite 98 repairs with 72 hour turnaround,
- Eugene, OR 97404-3228 all Mac models
- 503-461-1136
- 503-461-2005 (fax)
-
- MicroDoc Computer Repair C1 on the power supply board for $3
- 2477 W. 29th AV
- Eugene OR 97405
- 503-344-5335
- 503-344-5020 (fax)
-
- G.E. Computer $58 to exchange the analog board
- 2338-G Walsh Avenue
- Santa Clara CA 95051
- 408-998-2334
-
- Micromat Computer Systems
- 7050 Redwood Blvd.
- Bay #4, Novato CA 94947
- 415-898-6227
-
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-
- Consolidation of specific responses:
-
- Indeed this is a classic failure, usually of C1 on the power supply board.
-
- Experienced this problem myself, fixed it, and haven't had recurrence.
- On the analog board, the vertically mounted one, there is a white cardboard
- protector taped on the board to protect against shock - remove it.
- Observe the four wires that come from the yoke of the display tube and see
- where they connect to the board. Observe whether the solder is yellowed and
- nasty looking. Resolder if the connection seems bad.
-
- It's most likely the J9 connector or the flyback transformer on the video board.
-
- I had Soft Solutions do a full upgrade of my board before giving my mac to
- my brother and was quite happy with their service. If you have the
- original packaging, shipping UPS shouldn't be a problem.
-
- The first time I had this problem, I had the mac repairman in a little shop
- in town replace the J9 connector while I watched over his shoulder. He
- charged $25 for the job and it worked for a few years.
-
- This is a classic failure. Documented on p. 46 of the Dead Mac Scrolls.
-
- Replace high freq capacitor C1 ... 3.9 micro farad NP 25/35V HF
- with 3.9 NP 100V HF (a heavy-duty equivalent).
-
- Almost certainly caused by cracked solder joints on the analog board.
- You can fix it yourself in an hour or so. The joints that usually fail
- are the 4 pins of plug J1 (especially the top pin). Also check capacitor
- C1 and coil L2. This area is on the upper right corner of the analog
- board when you face the solder side of the installed board. Resoldering
- these joints will cure the problem. Look for heat discoloration of the
- vinyl cover taped to the analog board. Remove the jacket. The joints in
- question are often under the adhesive pad holding the jacket to the
- board.
-
- I resoldered a couple of joints on my machine and fixed it for several
- months. Later, C1 failed and I put a Soft Solutions kit in it. It's
- still going strong 18 months later.
-
- When my machine developed a similar problem, I fixed my own Mac Plus
- for about 35 cents by replacing a transistor on the analog board. I
- probably didn't even have to replace it. There was a cold solder
- joint so bad that when I cut the glue off the transistor, it
- practically fell out of the board. So, the first step is to look for
- cold solder joints on your analog board. Use proper safety precautions.
-
- Pina's "The Dead Mac Scrolls" says that if you don't smell smoke, the
- probable cause is a cracked solder joint on the analog board. The
- cracked joint may be covered by a foam pad. Check/resolder pin 4
- (top, horizontal yoke) of the J1 connector and check/resolder tunable
- coil L2 (marked width).
-
- The Soft Solutions kit doesn't really document the upgrade process.
-
- The solution I recommend is board-level swap of the analog/power supply
- board. Component level repairs will cost you about the same, but take
- tens of hours. Call G.E. Computer. I maintain about eight "toaster"
- Maintoshes at my kids' school, and have used G.E.C. twice to swap power
- supplies. Total satisfaction -- very reasonable price.
-
- You have to know how to disassemble your Plus, and safely discharge the
- high-voltage components. Pina's book has all the tricks for this.
-