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- From: drchambe@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Dennis Chamberlin)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
- Subject: Re: About IIsi upgrade heat
- Message-ID: <7643@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM>
- Date: 18 Nov 92 18:14:03 GMT
- References: <1992Nov15.190901.202@physc1.byu.edu>
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- In article <1992Nov15.190901.202@physc1.byu.edu> seth@physc1.byu.edu writes:
-
- > When you increase the clock speed to 25 MHz, which is a 25% increase
- >in clock speed, you are NOT increasing the current through the chip by 25%,
-
- >Since the formula for power is P=I^2*R, a current that was 1.25% of the
- >original current would produce an increase of (1.25)^2=1.563%.
-
- >This means that each clock cycle will produce heat for a SHORTER amount of
- >time, and that therefore even though there are 5 million more clock cycles
- >you end up with no more heat than before.
- >
- >I hope that some EE freakmo who can explain it better than
- >me will write in and do so.
-
- Most of the power dissipated in the chip occurs during the switching
- transitions. The R of the I^2*R is very low during the on-time and the I
- is zero during the off-time. However, the transitions are not instantaneous
- and a plot of power over the switching cycle shows big spikes when both I
- and R are significant (during the switch). There are more of these transitions
- and thus more power spikes at the high clock rate.
-
-
- >I have no idea what the
- >increase in clock speed will do to the impedance of the chip.
-
- ...but it is possible that some
- >inductance value of the chip would change with the increase in clock speed,
- >and thus change the power dissipated by the chip.
- ...I would like to know. But, these ideas sound reasonable to
- >me,...
-
- Your ideas are indeed reasonable, but I think you assumed the transitions
- take zero time and thus dissipate no power. Actually, they account for the
- majority of the power.
- Also, although the inductances and capacitances represent impedances to fast
- signals, this type of impedance does not dissipate power. Think of springs
- vs. shock absorbers or brakes.
-
- ...I have a hypothesis. Here goes: In some chips,
- >manufacturing defects and abnormalities sometimes might result in some current
- >path in the circuit being too close to another circuit path, resulting in
- >more interference with each other. Now, an oscillating current will radiate
- >radio waves according to physics, so these radio waves might be interfering
- >with each other or there could be some capacitance thing or any number of
- >types of interference between the two traces. Now, an increase in frequency
- >generally means an increase in power broadcast for radio waves and such, and
- >it could be that this increase in the radio wave energy pushes the chip over
- >the edge, to where the interference between traces finally proves fatal for
- >the chip and you get false signals as a result.
-
- You're absolutely right. The extra noise generated will tend to reduce
- operational tolerances at the higher speed. However, timing considerations
- may be more important. As speed increases, Clock transitions will eventually
- crowd the data transitions to the point the data "read" becomes unreliable.
-
-
- sincerely,
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- EE Freakmo
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