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- From: guiyu@spectra.eng.hawaii.edu (The Big Color Wolf)
- Subject: Re: Macintosh advocacy (really!) SCROLL BARS
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.202640.3774@news.Hawaii.Edu>
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- Organization: University of Hawaii, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
- References: <1992Nov9.132256.1127@yvax.byu.edu> <1992Nov11.192028.22300@news.Hawaii.Edu> <1992Nov12.225848.114240@watson.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:26:40 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov12.225848.114240@watson.ibm.com> arsouth@watson.ibm.com (Andrew R. Southwick) writes:
-
- >Just for those people out there who summarily decide that Mac's are a piece of
- >because the scroll-bars don't scroll the window in real-time:
- >
- >You see the note re: NeXT above.
- >OS/2 scroll bars do not scroll the window in real time. It will for some
- >applications, but not for all. It depends on the application, and how it wants
- >to respond to the controls.
- >
- >It is also possible for an application to respond in real-time to scroll bars.
- >POSSIBLE. Please, no flames from Mac-haters who insist on insulting the OS and
- >our intelligences at the slightest provocation. Julian Chang has normally been
- >a reasonable poster, but the shouts about this feature not being possibly
- >implemented in the Mac OS are misleading.
-
-
- 1st I apologize for using capital letters, I originally thought that they
- are meant to put emphasis on a word but found out later that writing in
- CAPITALS are considered as SHOUTING.(I use them here still as highlight
- though.)
-
- 2nd I know that OS/2, Windows do not have _real-time_ scroll-bars in _all_
- applications. However, I do find that OS/2 and Windows 3.1 have
- _real-time_ scroll_bars for desktop windows and file dialog windows.
- (It would be a real CPU hog to have _real-time_ scroll-bars for
- graphics-intensive applications, I concede)
- Since normally the desktop icons are not too complicated, it
- might be possible to have _real-time_ scroll bars for the mac, this
- does help not too little as it gives you precise control over when or
- where to stop when you are, say, searching over a long list of
- filenames or icons.
-
- 3rd Someone mentioned that the newer version of Alpha (text editor) does
- have a _real-time_ scrolling feature. I tried it and find that it is
- not _real-time_ enough(on the school's IIcx, IIsi), perhaps at present
- _real-time_ scroll-bars are not yet suitable for within applications(
- someone on the net even reported he has to wait a moment every time he
- scrolls _real-time_ on his NeXT)
-
- 4th I orignally saw this nifty-feature on a HP-PARC 730 workstation and
- like it very much(very helpful). Later, the Quadra came out and they
- were in the WorkStation class but yet have no such feature built-into
- the OS. I was slightly disappointed, since NeXT has it.
-
- Anyway, I admit I am too meticulous on this, but personally, I will think twice
- buying the Quadra(assuming I have the cash) just for the lack of this feature.
- However, if I were to buy the MacIIsi, I won't mind because I perceive it to be
- a sub-workstation class machine that's not supposed(able) to have _real-time_
- scroll-bars, but I do envy those Windows 3.1 or OS/2 users for having at least
- in the file-open dialog box and desktop windows the ability to scroll in
- _real-time_.
- Sincerely yours,
- Julian CHANG
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