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- From: bruce@ais.com (Bruce C. Wright)
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- Subject: Re: alpha memory requirements (vs vax) ?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.161557.5840@ais.com>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 16:15:57 GMT
- References: <1992Nov10.130048.7200@slcs.slb.com> <Bxnt6o.Jx0@mtholyoke.edu> <1992Nov13.162542.5834@ais.com> <BxtJvM.GBw@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
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- In article <BxtJvM.GBw@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney) writes:
- >>In article <Bxnt6o.Jx0@mtholyoke.edu>, jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz) writes:
- >>>
- >>> Nonetheless it's too expensive... 70ns 1Mb chips are selling for less
- >>> than $2.50 per in volume... that works out to less than $25 for a
- >>> 9-chip SIMM. If your manufacturing cost is as high as $10/SIMM,
- >>> that's still nearly a 300% markup.
- >
- > There's another factor that our genious didn't take into account, that is,
- > the speed of the memory. 70ns memory won't hack it on a machine that is
- > running at 150-200MHz. In case you didn't notice, 200MHz is a 5ns cycle,
- > a bit smaller than, oh, say *70*.
-
- I don't think _any_ of the high-density chips run on a 5 ns cycle -- I
- think you have to go to a much more expensive and less dense technology
- like ECL to get that kind of memory cycle time with current technology.
- Usually the memory is run at a lower clock rate than the CPU (that's what
- the cache is for). Even a 33 MHz 486 runs the CPU faster than commonly-
- available memory chips (33MHz works out to a 30ns cycle time).
-
- The point is well taken however; I don't know the speed of the chips
- in the Alpha memory arrays. 70ns is however a common clock rate for
- the faster chips ... though I do know of some that are a bit faster.
-
- > I know one 3rd party vendor, whose prices are significantly lower than DEC's
- > on most products, just quoted me $6495 for 64MB of memory for the Sandpiper.
- > DEC isn't too much higher than that, especially when you consider the price
- > disparity in the DECstation-line memory cards.
-
- That's a useful data point, it will be interesting to see how the prices
- track the cost of other memory arrays once they are in full production.
-
- Bruce C. Wright
-