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- From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
- Subject: Falcon has 16 bit bus (was Re: the falcon's super.. NEW)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov21.185551.90672@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>
- Date: 21 Nov 92 18:55:51 +1100
- Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia
- Lines: 104
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- From: runehy@dhhalden.no (RUNE HYLDMO)
-
- >Many of you Amiga freaks are telling the Falconers things like these...
- >I don t need a DSP anyway, but i anyone does I can just plug in an add-on
- >board!!!
-
- Can you upgrade the DSP?
-
- >I don t need a FPU, but if anyone does, one can just plug one in..
-
- Or put it on the (A1200) motherboard. The FPU lines are on it.
-
- >I don t need LAN, but if someone does they can just plug a card on in..
-
- For whatever LAN is appropriate
-
- >I don t need SCSI II, but if someone does, they can just plug a card..
-
- Your point.
-
- >I don t need a HD-floppy, but if someone does they can just get one..
- >(swap, swap, swap, swap, swap, swap, swap if you haven t got a harddrive)
-
- And another to you.
-
- >And I guess all these things are for free or are they????
- >
- >They will sure have a hard time changing all those extra add-on cards, maybe
- >they should hire a person to do it for them, so they have some time left to
- >use their machine. At least they seem to have enough money to hire someone
- >since they can afford all those add-on boards!!!
-
- Why would each device need a seperate card? SCSI-2 controllers come
- in a single chip, DSP's aren't very big and ram is getting more compact all
- the time. Put the DSP, SCSI-2 and 32 bit ram on an A1200 expansion bay card,
- the FPU on the motherboard and the LAN interface in the industry standard
- PCMIA slot. What do I need to swap now?
-
- Oh, Rune, before you get too carried away, read the article I
- found in comp.sys.atari.tech. You may not be so thrilled with the Falcon
- after you do.
-
- >From: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no (Joern Moe)
- >Organization: Atari Corp. Scand. AB (Norway)
- >
- >Ok, sorry about this guys, but here's the final facts:
- >
- >
- > Date: 17 Nov 92 07:02:23 EST
- > From: Wilfred Kilwinger <72347.2124@CompuServe.COM>
- > Subject: Want to get something cleared up....
- > To: >INTERNET:jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no
- >
- > >There's a lot of confusion going on at comp.sys.atari.st.tech about the
- > >Falcon bus: Does it have 16 or 32 bit databus (CPU <-> memory)?
- >
- > This is what John Townsend (Atari Corp) said on GEnie:
- > --------------------------------
- > Atari-ST RoundTable
- > Category 14, Topic 20
- > Message 73 Mon Nov 16, 1992
- > TOWNS [John@Atari] at 15:01 EDT
- >
- > Once and for all..
- >
- >
- > The Falcon030 has a 24bit Address Bus and a 16bit Data Bus. The
- > expansion port on the machine represents that bus.
- >
- >
- > The Falcon030 can have a minimum of 1 meg of RAM and a maximum of
- > 14 megs of RAM. Possible RAM configurations are 1meg, 4meg, or 16
- > megs of RAM.
- >
- >
- > -- John Townsend, Atari Corp.
- > ------------------------------
- > Note that the Apple LC and the Classic II use the same trick and some
- > chips do have full 32bit access like the video logic.
- >
- >*****************
- >
- >Now, that should settle the discussion on wheter it has 16 or 32 bit bus, but
- >it will certainly not settle the frustration among some of you Atarians now:-/
- >But remember: with its low price, the Falcon 030 is quite uniq anyway!!
- >
- >And while we are at it with facts from reliable sources:
- >
- > >There just appeared a roumor about the reason for the delay of Falcon. The
- > >roumor states that an Atari official (in europe som place) said that the
- > >reason for delay was that new video-modes were added (redesigning of video-
- > >hardware) to see to that the Falcon had better spesifications than Amiga
- > >1200!
- > >Do you have anny coments on this roumor (that I may quote to internet)?
- >
- > Yes, 100% nonsens.
-
- I shall leave it to the reader to draw their own conclusions.
-
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