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- From: sfk@otter.hpl.hp.com (Steve Knight)
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:02:54 GMT
- Subject: Re: Re: Re: help [Real time and Pop-11]
- Message-ID: <116670016@otter.hpl.hp.com>
- Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
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- Many thanks to Aaron Sloman for clarifying some of my earlier remarks.
- I'd like to continue one point, though, on the subject of run-time
- sizes. I suggested that the run-time size for POPLOG was approximately
- 0.5 Mb :-
-
- > > For example,
- > > the richest and most complex implementation (POP-11) has a run-time
- > > executable of approximately 500Kb.
-
- Aaron pointed out that the latest version of POP-11 with all the
- hooks for development comes to nearly 2.0Mb.
-
- > That's a bit out of date: The latest distributed version of Pop-11
- > (in Poplog V14.1) with hooks for X, and including the incremental
- > compiler, the integrated editor VED (similar in philosophy and
- > programmability to Emacs), the core of prolog, etc. is a nearly four
- > times that size on a typical RISC machine. E.g. on a SPARC
-
- This is all correct. The difference between our remarks is that I was
- stating the base size for *delivery* of an application rather than
- the typical size for *development*. Our typical applications don't
- use X-windows or the integral editor, so we are therefore able to work
- with images of greatly reduced size.
-
- It is also worth noting that, like many UNIX applications, the advent
- of shared libraries will make it unnecessary to have separate executables
- in the near future. Another factor of interest will be POPC -- but that's
- a topic best left to another note.
-
- Steve
-