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- From: jschell@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (As if I'd tell you!)
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- Subject: Re: Will we keep ignoring this productivity issue?
- Summary: Comp. Sci. engineering course
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- Date: 16 Nov 92 11:02:04 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov16.091643.13590@netcom.com> pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard ) writes:
- >The Computer Scientists are too busy trying to get people AWAY from
- >thinking about the bits and bytes (and towards the abstract) to get
- >people to properly understand how to deal with the bits and bytes.
- >
- >In EE you START from the bottom and work your way up. You learn to
- >understand the building blocks. Computers SHOULD be taught the same
- >way. In fact I am awfully tempted to say that the circuit theory and
- >digital circuits courses should be taught to even though wanting to
- >become programmers. At least some machine language should be.
- >
- >
- >/***********************************************************************\
- >| Phil Howard --- KA9WGN --- pdh@netcom.com | "The problem with |
- >| depending on government is that you cannot depend on it" - Tony Brown |
- >\***********************************************************************/
-
- Well, I have no idea where you went to school or how long ago, but
- I'm currently enrolled in the EE program at UC San Diego and I will
- be switching to CS soon. Again, I can't speak for other schools,
- but here at least, the EE and CS programs are pretty close to each
- other in some of the upper-division classes and identical in the
- lower-division. The lower-division classes include Assembly
- Language on a 68030 chip along with introduction to basic hardware
- concepts and implementations such as logic gates, etc. Also, both
- programs include a sequence of three actual EE classes and three
- concurrent EE labs to go with them. So you see, there are computer
- scientists being taught the building blocks.
-
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- | --> Jon Schell <-- | "Andre, you mean to tell me that you |
- | The Master | have lost _another_ sub?" |
- | tm@ucsd.edu | -- The Hunt for Red October |
- | jonschell@aol.com | "REboot to the head." --me |
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- | No one else would be crazy enough to claim these opinions. | 42 |
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