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- From: lachlan@dmp.csiro.au (Lachlan Cranswick)
- Subject: Re: VI??? GROSS!
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.024356.17586@dmp.csiro.au>
- Organization: CSIRO Division of Mineral Products, Melbourne, AUSTRALIA
- References: <1992Oct28.162607.5613@sunvax.sun.ac.za> <1992Oct28.214551.21668@wixer.cactus.org> <LYT86XN@math.fu-berlin.de>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:43:56 GMT
- Lines: 64
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- wolff@inf.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolff) writes:
-
- >As a reaction to my moroseness about the apparent unavailability of a
- >simple text editor for Unix and the monstrous complexity and slowness
- >of the only widely spread alternative (emacs), I captured the source
- >of a freely available editor and turned it into a safe, fast, and easy
- >to use text editor. (I also announced it to this group some time ago.)
- >It is available by ftp from ftp.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.50]:
- >/pub/unix/editor/mined.tar.Z (108841 bytes)
- >/pub/pc/editor/mined_pc.zip (114522 bytes)
-
- I'm FTPing the above editor to try it out. But a good -
- simple editor I have just given to site users
- is PICO. It really is very simple and users didn't
- believe there could ever be a simple editor for UNIX but they
- have been proved wrong. It is also public domain software.
-
-
- It also came with
- a number of makefiles for different computers so I didn't have
- library problems to get the thing to compile.
-
- FEATURES:-
- It has the menu at the bottom on the screen with all the options.
- Line wrap.
- REALLY USER FRIENDLY.
-
- I no longer have to feel guilty about introducing
- new users to UNIX by warning them to leave an afternoon
- or two free to learn vi.
-
- It is very easy to get elm to use it as its default editor
- and you can make nn use PICO as its default editor by putting
- the line
-
- setenv EDITOR /bin/pico (or wherever the editor is)
-
-
- One of the indicators on how much average users hate vi
- is that some of the site users were editing their
- documents in a simple DOS editor, then uploading
- it to the unix machine. Is this comomon on other
- sites that use UNIX.
-
- The most extreme case was for email. The person edited
- his letter in MS WORD 5.0 for DOS. Saving the final copy as
- a text file. Then uploading it via serial line to the UNIX
- machine to mail off.
-
- This question was part of the is UNIX dead flamewar on comp.unix.questions
- but if UNIX is so good compared to DOS - and DOS is the bottom of the barrel -
- how come you never seem to find new DOS users uploading their text files
- to a UNIX machine to edit. This seems to imply UNIX has some big
- failings with common users. And no - the fact that you can get vi for DOS
- is not the only answer!!
-
- At least with some very kind people writing
- simple editors for UNIX, new users will not be turned off immediately
- after they try to edit a text file.
- --
- Lachlan Cranswick - CSIRO _--_|\ lachlan@dmp.CSIRO.AU
- Division of Mineral Products / \ tel +61 3 647 0367
- PO Box 124, Port Melbourne 3207 \_.--._/ fax +61 3 646 3223
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