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- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:55:24 GMT
- From: turner@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Bob Turner)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
- Subject: Re: At NYNEX, CNID is Coming Before E911
- Message-ID: <telecom12.870.5@eecs.nwu.edu>
- Organization: Univ. of Dayton, School of Engineering
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- In article <telecom12.850.3@eecs.nwu.edu> rocker@vnet.ibm.com (Joshua
- E. Muskovitz) writes:
-
- > To their credit, the rep understood everything I said, but pointed out
- > that in this area, at least, we do not have enhanced 911 and so I must
- > dial *67 911 in order for them to be able to find me. She claimed
- > that the delay in setting up E911 ("we've been working on it for three
- > years") is from the post office -- they have to convert all the Rural
- > Route addresses and such to street addresses before an E911 system can
- > be installed.
-
- > Personally, I don't believe it. Why not simply install it now for the
- > more urban addresses, and update it for those addresses when they are
- > converted?
-
- Oh you better believe it!!! And thank god they are not putting a E911
- system up without address rectification.
-
- This is a difficult problem that my company and my joint venture
- partner deal with on a daily basis. There is nothing worse then an
- E911 system that cannot be trusted. Waiting for the post office is a
- typical problem, eavne worse with the current round of lay-offs. In
- Kentucky, a big market for us, the addressing support person in
- Louisville was "early retired" on Sept 15. So for addressing support
- your on your own in Kentucky.
-
- Address rectification is only one aspect of putting a E911 database
- together. And it has to be done. The phone company records are
- inaccurate (at best). This usually isn't a problem because the
- addresses they have are for billing purposes not Location ID.
-
- However the legal and operation ramifications are tremendous. Try to
- convince your Emergency crews to kill themselves to get to an address
- that the ALI computer spitout. Especially when the past performance
- has been less than 45% (Actual occurance). Plus the liability
- potential is horrendous.
-
- > [Moderator's Note: If she told you 'you must dial *67-911 in order for
- > them to find you' then I would question how much she understood about
- > what she was saying. *67 usually toggles the status of CLID delivery,
- > but in any event it *never* affects the 911 display (if there is one;
- > some older 911's don't have it.) PAT]
-
- Correct. E911 is driven off the billing systems for calling number
- delivery. Thats why the trunks going into a PSAP are generally CAMA
- or TSPS. CNID and CLASS don't have anything to do with this.
-
-
- Bob Turner Senior System Engineer
- 513-434-2738 turner@udecc.engr.udayton.edu
- CommSys, Inc. 77 West Elmwood Drive, Suite 101, Dayton, OH 45459
-
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