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- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 8:26:20 CST
- From: Will Martin <wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL>
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
- Subject: Re: Phone Harassment (a New Solution?)
- Message-ID: <telecom12.856.2@eecs.nwu.edu>
- Organization: TELECOM Digest
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- X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 856, Message 2 of 13
- Lines: 54
-
- > Moderator's Note: Illinois Bell will put a trap on a line to catch
- > the person involved, but only on one condition: you must first give
- > them a written okay to turn their evidence over to the police and
- > agree to prosecute the offender ... no exceptions. IBT won't get in
- > the middle of it; it could be a total stranger, some sick person or
- > perhaps someone you know -- a relative or a 'friend'. IBT won't do a
- > trap and play detective for you just to satisfy your curiosity.
-
- I understand how this attitude would prevail in the old Bell System
- days, but I find it hard to understand the telco maintaining this
- position in the current climate. Why won't IBT just do it and charge
- you for it? After all, every other telco "service" or "feature" is now
- viewed as a money-making opportunity these days, from Directory
- Assistance to wiring maintenance. Why not just figure out what it
- costs to do this, and then charge double or triple (or more! :-) for
- doing it on a completely private basis, not inolving law enforcement.
-
- After all, this is really no different than Caller-ID, so if the telco
- is in a state where the local authorities have approved Caller-ID,
- then there should be no legal hassle to the telco in selling this
- service.
-
- Sure, I can see them not doing it on a no-charge basis unless you
- agree to follow-up with a criminal complaint. But if the customer
- wants the telco to put a trap-and-trace on his own line, and is
- willing to pay for it, why not just do it for the bucks?
-
-
- Regards,
-
-
- Will wmartin@st-louis-emh2.army.mil OR wmartin@stl-06sima.army.mil
-
-
- [Moderator's Note: The difference is that with Caller-ID, the calling
- party usually can use *67 to avoid registering his call on the called
- party's device. On the other hand, with 'trap and trace', no one is
- able to avoid detection. So by collecting the information and selling
- it to the called party, Caller-ID and Name/Address information is
- being provided by a backdoor method. If the called party has no valid
- reason for the information, evidenced by his refusal to prosecute the
- caller, then the caller could claim *his* privacy had been violated
- and that normal procedures in effect to protect his privacy, i.e. *67
- to block the Caller-ID display, had been circumvented. Telco is
- saying that if you expect *them* to put their neck on the chopping
- block you will begin by signing off on the whole thing and having
- *your neck* out there also. This is much like asking a police officer
- who did not personally witness a crime to arrest someone you claim
- committed a crime. The cop says if you are willing to sign a
- complaint, he'll arrest the person, not otherwise ... no fool is he
- when it comes to false arrest charges. Nor will telco put itself in
- a postion to have ugly charges and lawsuits brought against them. PAT]
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