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- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
- Subject: Re: Why is Supra able to sell?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov23.134815.13328@phillip.edu.au>
- From: t9114145@phillip.edu.au
- Date: 23 Nov 92 13:48:15 EST
- References: <1992Nov16.114600.13310@phillip.edu.au> <1992Nov16.184545.7952@ntmtv>
- Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)
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- In article <1992Nov16.184545.7952@ntmtv>, west@ntmtv.UUCP (Andrew West) writes:
- > From article <1992Nov16.114600.13310@phillip.edu.au>, by t9114145@phillip.edu.au:
- >> In article <17375@mindlink.bc.ca>, David_Hunter@mindlink.bc.ca (David Hunter) writes:
- >>> I have a Supra v.32bis. I purchased it about 6 months ago based on its
- >>> impressive list of features, price, and that the only things I had read in
- >>> computer magazines were positive. I was not reading net messages at that
- >>> time. Over the last 6 months I had many difficulties and have been able to
- >>> eventually work around them at a considerable cost it time, money and
- >>> frustration. I am now at the point where I am getting what I want from my
- >>> modem, but its performance was so far from "plug and play" it is ridiculous.
- >>
- >> It's not a "plug and play" modem, no. It does work if you take the time
- >> to learn a bit about modems, but it's not the modem version of a Mac, and
- >> the price reflects this. Would you be happier if you had paid a bit more
- >> and got larger glossier manuals and lots of extras?
- >>
- >> Hypothesis: People who write for magazines generally use lots of different
- >> products and can make things work even if the manual doesn't spell it out.
- >> People who have been complaining heaps about their modems either can't work
- >> it out without detailed, step-by-step instructions and lots of hand-holding,
- >> or just like to whinge a lot. That's my idea anyway. My Supra has caused no
- >> trouble. I have had prompt replies from Supra in all my dealings.
- >> Basically I don't understand how some people have stuffed things up to the
- >> extent that they report here.
- >
- > Get a life...
-
- Get a real computer...
-
- >
- >> The net may be more honest, but just how reliable is it? You would think
- >> that on the net lots of computer professionals would make opinions more
- >> reliable, but there are heaps of Mac-using humanities-stream people here
- >> too. (Not me though!)
- >
- > I've met a lot of humanities-stream people who seem pretty
- > knowledgable about their computers. Furthermore, a lot of them aren't
- > pompous jerks...
-
- You seem a bit sensitive about this. I don't see it as belittling. I know
- bugger all about English Lit, and I don't care if someone tells me so.
- Humanities people don't generally specialise in communications.
-
- >
- >>
- >> Right, so it works now. Exactly what did you have to do? Modify an init string?
- >> Get the right cable? What was it that stopped the modem from working?
- >
- > I'll be interested to hear also--and and least now you're asking
- > the right question.
- >
- > As I described above, I finally ignored the Supra manual--and all
- > those who kept saying "the defaults work fine"--and played around with
- > settings until I found one that worked (or at least reduced the
- > problems).
-
- And that's the point. It's what you have to do to make it work, and if
- you're not prepared to, then spend and extra $200 on pretty manuals and
- hand-holding support. Your choice.
-
- >
- >
- > Andrew West
- > Northern Telecom UUCP: {ames, amdahl, hplabs}...!ntmtv!west
- > Mt View, CA USA Internet: ntmtv!west@ames.arc.nasa.gov or
- > ntmtv!west@ames.arpa
- >
- --
-
- Adam Eberbach Computer Science student, RMIT. t9114145@phillip.edu.au
- "We don' need no stinkin' signatures!"
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