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- From: bob (Bob Grow)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.fddi
- Subject: Re: SMT operation that can bring ring down
- Message-ID: <1249@xlnt.COM>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 20:23:11 GMT
- Article-I.D.: xlnt.1249
- References: <1992Nov12.184036.16534@octel.com>
- Sender: postmaster@xlnt.COM
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- In article <1992Nov12.184036.16534@octel.com> pfloyd@octel.com (Michael
- Barnett) writes:
- >
- >I'm having some trouble with a wrapped ring that goes down for
- >exactly 10 seconds occassionaly. Actually, one station out of
- >3 sees the ring go down for 10 seconds. We're using the AMD
- >supernet chip set and synernetics SMT. Is there any test that
- >the SMT may be running that is causing the ring to go down? (e.g.
- >trace function, path test, etc.) I've looked through the specs
- >but can't find anything that has this long of a time frame.
- >I suspect that it may have something to do with the LEM since
- >we're getting alot of lost frame hits due to a bug within the
- >chipset. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
- >
- >
- > - Mike
- >--
- >--
- >pfloyd@octel.com
- >
-
- A little more topology information would have been helpful. I assume that
- this ring is as shown below. With stations A and C in WRAP.
-
- +-----+ pri +-----+ +-----+
- | |---->| |---->| |
- | A | sec | B | | C |
- | |<----| |<----| |
- +-----+ +-----+ +-----+
-
- If only one of the three stations is losing ring operational for an
- extended time, then it is possible that it is an LEM condition. To verify
- this you need to examine CF-State.
-
- Look at the problem and neighbor station to see if configurations are
- changing. For example if the problem station is C then C would be changing
- from WRAP A to ISOLATED and the neighbor station (B) would be going from
- THRU to WRAP A. If the problem station is B then it would be going from
- THRU to WRAP A or WRAP B and the corresponding neighbor would go from WRAP
- to ISOLATED.
-
- If the problem station is connected to a concentrator instead of as
- illustrated above then it would go from WRAP to ISOLATED and the
- concentrator is staying in the same CF-State though is still reported
- (e.g., THRU to THRU) as the master port is included and excluded from the
- ring.
-
- Exactly ten seconds is unusual because it is closer to the trace timeout
- (defaults produce timeouts of 9 seconds) than to the link confidence test
- time (default 5 seconds after LEM reject). But in the trace situation, the
- ring would be non operational for all three stations for for at least the
- timeout times. In LEM reject, the bad link would be removed from the ring,
- and included after passing LCT. Perhaps in your samples of the problem, it
- passed LCT on its second attempt or LCT_long was set to 10 seconds.
-
- It's tough to debug a problem with as little information as you have given.
- I hope this will be helpful.
-
-
- Bob Grow (bob@xlnt.com)
-
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