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- From: finn@isi.edu (Greg Finn)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.cell-relay
- Subject: Re: Computers dont like ATM?
- Message-ID: <22933@venera.isi.edu>
- Date: 21 Nov 92 22:30:18 GMT
- References: <sjdveq8@sgi.sgi.com>
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- Reply-To: finn@dalek.isi.edu (Greg Finn)
- Organization: USC-Information Sciences Institute
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- In article <sjdveq8@sgi.sgi.com> rpw3@rigden.wpd.sgi.com (Rob Warnock) writes:
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- >+---------------
- >| When ATM-based LAN performance exceeds PTM-based LAN performance/cost,
- >| ATM proponents will have a much better argument than they now have.
- >| Frankly, I don't forsee that happening in the electrical domain.
- >+---------------
- >
- >Well, I do, actually. Sliding down the price/volume curve, and all that...
- >Two-chip solutions that go from AAL PDUs to ATM cells to SONET line coding
- >(and back) are not that far away, at least at 155 Mb/s.
-
- I don't doubt your statements about how cheap the ATM silicon
- can be. Virtually all CMOS chips have a unit cost of a few dollars or
- less to manufacture in great volume. But the simplicity of no
- fragmentation/reassembly allows the network interface to be made so
- small that it doesn't even require one complete chip, it fits onto a
- small part of a microprocessor chip. There are already existence
- proofs.
-
- More pesky, but a problem for all fast LANs now is that Gb/s
- class cable driver parts are very expensive. Data is data and data
- over distance at high speeds costs. 155 Mb/s allows one to use coax
- for typical LAN runs between a workstation and the wiring closet down
- the hall where the hub, concentrator or switch is kept. I think it is
- no coincidence that some 622 Mb/s ATM LAN projects have retrenched to
- 155 Mb/s.
-
- At Gb/s rates you can go parallel copper for about 30 meters.
- We have characterized vanilla 25-pair phone cable to carry
- differentially driven 110 MHz signals. That seems to be about the
- limit. Skew and loss of margins impose limits. Beyond 30 meters
- fiber-optics is suggested. It is here that things are still very
- expensive. You need sub-nanosecond parts.
-
- There are a lot of players trying to make this less expensive.
- Parallel coax and parallel plastic fiber reduce the signalling rate,
- better or much less expensive gigabit encoder/decoder chips, ... I
- have no feeling about what that may lead to in terms of cost
- reductions. Volume now is very low.
-
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- Gregory Finn (310) 822-1511
- Information Sciences Institute, Marina Del Rey, CA 90292
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