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- Path: sparky!uunet!europa.asd.contel.com!emory!uumind!willard!dawson
- From: dawson@willard.UUCP
- Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
- Subject: Re: News/mail reader
- Message-ID: <s0HkuB8w165w@willard.UUCP>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 21:33:03 EST
- References: <1992Nov19.195927.454@victrola.sea.wa.us>
- Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
- Lines: 73
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- vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan) writes:
-
- { picking up the path back to the sender from the Path header }
-
- > >Which is easy for informed, experienced news readers.
- >
- > not necessarily.
- >
- > 'real news' using 'real newsreaders' are generally configurable to
- > either reverse the (very slow...very, VERY slow) path backwards to
- > you, which assumes that nobody in between (can you say 'rutgers')
- > militantly reroutes stuff.
- >
- > or....
- >
- > they permit you to say 'no way I will use bang paths...use SMTP style),
- > which is what they probably should be set to do in most instances.
- > reversing the bang path isn't necessarily the right thing.
-
- But, if you look at the path header.. all the way to the end..
-
- siteN!siteN-1!...!site2!site1
-
- You will be able to detect the sitename, and the site to which he connects
- (for news, anyhow -- yes, I realize that that connection may not support
- email). Perhaps site1 is not in the maps or MX'ed, but somewhere along
- that path, one of those sites will be. You don't have to (as I'm sure
- you already know) reverse the path, but only specify a complete bangpath
- for the last bit of it.. starting from a known host. Easy, for those with
- experience.
-
- >
- > >the outside to some local addresses (e.g., morpheus!dawson@bselab.bls.com)
- > >works, but not to others. This is somewhat out of my control, though I've
- > >been offering tactful suggestions to the administrator of the system acting
- > >as MX record holder and email forwarder, and we hope to have this situation
- > >resolved in the very near future.
- >
- > if you need that form of addresses, you need to stomp (not tactfully) your
- > local MX forwarder or find another one. If they've agreed to be your MX
- > forwarder, and they can't figure out how to do it, or aren't willing to
- > devote the time to do it right, they should be stomped HARD. There's nothing
- > worse then doing it half-assed. You can't depend on it...your downstream
- > sites can't either...nobody who talks to any of you can trust it...gross
- > situation.
-
- It's not that the MX forwarding is fucked.. it's the god-awful SysVR4 attmail
- software. That package is good for UUCP-UUCP links, domain-domain links,
- but is a bitch to configure for UUCP-domain links. I have no experience in
- configuring that package, and apparently neither does the sysadmin in whose
- control this whole situation lies.
-
- There is more at work here than simply chosing to UUCP with Joe Crock and
- his great system. There's big-co. politics, inter-departmental bullshit,
- etc.; enough to make me want to find a different employer!!!
-
- So, we can't simply choose anyone for our connection to the "outside"
- world. We can't do anything but make suggestions as to how the situation
- might be fixed. Is it any wonder that the whole email schlock has been
- so fouled for so long!?
-
- >
- > --
- > ---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.sea.wa.us ----------
- > I just upgraded to Quicken-for-Windows v2.0 and it's so darn great I'll
- > never get rid of DOS...anybody got a Quicken-for-X11R5 ???
-
-
- --
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