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- From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
- Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy
- Subject: Re: It is AI when...
- Message-ID: <28221@castle.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 17:40:59 GMT
- References: <1992Nov10.204536.16987@psych.toronto.edu> <1992Nov11.074800.16835JPII@tygra.Michigan.COM> <Stafford-131192111721@stafford.winona.msus.edu>
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- In article <Stafford-131192111721@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
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- >There is an interesting philosophy which asserts that one cannot
- >completely know the tool which is knowing.
-
- There is another which asserts that one can.
-
- There is a third which asserts that it doesn't matter, since we are
- fortunately able to build things which work without having to
- understand them properly.
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- There is a fourth which says that since science is a collective social
- endeavour, just as is any large scale engineering enterprise,
- therefore a society of people working according to the scientific
- method and good organisational principles can, as a society,
- understand and build things in principle quite beyond the
- comprehension of any individual members of that society.
-
- There is fifth which points out that since a totally blind, ignorant,
- accident-prone, and severely constrained mechanical brute search of
- the design possibilities was able to "design" people (aka evolution),
- that creatures capable of understanding (aka people) ought to be able
- to do better.
-
- >There is an interesting philosophy which asserts that one cannot
- >completely know the tool which is knowing.
-
- I'm saving up statements like this to feed to the first artificial
- intelligence with philosophical pretensions, in the hope that they
- might cause it to explode, or even to believe them!
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- Chris Malcolm cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh +44 (0)31 650 3085
- Department of Artificial Intelligence, Edinburgh University
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