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- From: woods@claven.ucar.edu (Greg Woods)
- Subject: Re: Amendment 2
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.235213.1201@claven.ucar.edu>
- Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
- References: <1992Nov17.162624.19269@claven.ucar.edu> <1992Nov19.195441.13297@col.hp.com>
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:52:13 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov19.195441.13297@col.hp.com> vanm@col.hp.com (Van Martin) writes:
- >woods@claven.ucar.edu (Greg Woods) writes:
- >> I think [#2 was passed by] mostly people who were deluded into
- >> thinking that voting NO on 2 would automatically grant special privileges
- >> to homosexuals. They thought that by voting YES they were voting against
- >> special privileges when in fact they were voting for legalized discrimination.
- >
- > IMO the population-at-large voted
- > for/against Amendment 2 based on their opinion of homosexuality as a
- > legitimate minority requiring singled-out protection by State law.
-
- Thank you for proving my point. You still think Amendment 2 was
- about special privileges. It wasn't. Yes, there is wording in #2 that
- prohibits special privileges, but the homosexuals never had any special
- privileges to begin with, so that is a red herring. That's exactly what
- I'm talking about. The "special privileges" stuff was a smokescreen to
- hide the fact that what #2 really does is make it illegal to protect
- homosexuals from discrimination. This is not a "special privilege",
- it is a basic civil right which has now been denied to homosexuals,
- and homosexuals alone.
-
- > You chose the PC word homophobe to describe anyone who, with full
- > knowledge of the whole Amendment, voted yes.
-
- No, I didn't. The only reference I made to homophobes was to say that
- they did not constitute a majority of those who voted for #2.
-
- > What does concern me is the foisting of someone's bedroom habits on
- > my church
-
- The Boulder, Denver and (I think) Aspen laws all exempt churches. This
- is another straw man.
-
- > Amendment 2 did not create a law that said "Thou Shalt Discriminate
- > Against Homosexuals," it only said "Thou Shalt Not Single Out The
- > Homosexuals for Special Dispensation Under Our Illustrious Legal
- > System."
-
- Absolutely wrong. What #2 says is that homosexuals in fact *are* going
- to be treated differently than anyone else under our legal system. They
- are denied the right to sue for discrimination. A right that all the rest
- of us, including young white males, still have.
-
- > Leave what goes on in the bedroom, in the bedroom and out of the
- > courtroom.
-
- Exactly the reason to be AGAINST #2.
-
- --Greg
-