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- Path: sparky!uunet!uchinews!machine!chinet!ignatz
- From: ignatz@chinet.chi.il.us (Dave Ihnat)
- Subject: Re: So you want to join a Bally's Health Club? Read this...
- Message-ID: <BxzMtD.Lwp@chinet.chi.il.us>
- Summary: Excuse me, but it doesn't quite look that way to me...
- Sender: Dave Ihnat
- Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
- References: <69379@cup.portal.com> <Bxxv1E.DxC@idm.com>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:03:12 GMT
- Lines: 41
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- In article <Bxxv1E.DxC@idm.com> rjr@idm.com (Ray J Rueb) writes:
- >Note: My comments are meant to be adult and confrontive in nature.
- >Please do not interpret my comments as FLAMES. They are not.
- >Please stay adult, read on... and learn.
- >Instead of all this crap, do something positive about your life.
- >...
- >See a therapist.
- >Or since you've said how poor you are, call 312-WARRIOR a low cost
- >alternative to conventional therapy for men.
- >
- >Give up this victim crap and take charge of your life.
- >
- >>Eric Rainbolt
- >> Any similar stories out there?
- >Yes, I too am a recovering victim.
-
- Pardon me, but your comments *did* come out as, if not flames, extremely
- judgmental and unbending. Many of the issues you took as giving up control
- struck me as legitimate requests--for instance, it's not out of line to ask
- if a short-term contract, or a legal way out of a long-term contract, is a
- valid option. Perhaps the greatest criticism that could be tendered is that,
- once investigating the situation, the individual *did* yield control to the
- extent that he didn't carefully read the contract, and get everything in
- writing in a legally binding agreement.
-
- Having said this, I would like to ask that you perhaps consider that, if you've
- been involved with therapy of some sort, one danger is that you start
- interpreting *everyone* in light of what you've been exposed to; and often,
- live simply isn't quite that pathological. (For other examples of this kind of
- thing, ref. reformed smokers, new members of ALANON, or Scientology.)
-
- Often, problems are just that, and can be worked out without resort to therapy
- or support groups. When they can't, such help is certainly worthwhile. But
- as Freud said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." Allowing for a certain
- naievite, this seems like someone running for the first time into a well-
- known phenomenon of life, aggressive health club sales policies. That's all.
-
- Cheers,
- Dave Ihnat
- ignatz@homebru.chi.il.us (preferred return address)
- ignatz@chinet.chi.il.us
-