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- From: robinson@mdivax1.uucp (Jim Robinson)
- Subject: Re: The partition of Quebec (from an APEC pamphlet)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.175630.6255@mdivax1.uucp>
- Reply-To: robinson@mdd.comm.mot.com (Jim Robinson)
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- References: <1992Nov16.031509.291@csi.uottawa.ca>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 17:58:19 GMT
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- Christopher Browne (cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca) wrote:
- >
- >If you want to reduce the influence Ontario and Quebec have over the
- >aggregate, Canada, what is simpler:
- >
- >1) Redesign the federal government so that Ontario and Quebec are
- >weaker?
- >
- >This isn't terribly practical, seeing as how Canada IS a federal
- >democracy that elects representatives based on representation by
- >population.
- >
- >The citizens of Ontario and Quebec won't agree to this option, because
- >it is clearly not in their interests.
- >
- >2) Reduce the influence of the Federal government, devolving
- >responsibilities to the provincial governments?
- >
- >This would give Ontario and Quebec some additional powers that they
- >didn't have before, but removes the VALUE of the influence that they
- >have on the federal government. The net effect is that Ontario &
- >Quebec would have slightly less power.
- >
- >On the other hand, the other provinces would gain a great deal of
- >influence relating to the things that affect them.
- >
- >You CAN'T do 1). If you think there was disagreement over
- >Charlottetown, you ain't seen nothing yet! Ontario wouldn't be split
- >49.5/50.5 - it would be 5% for, and 95% against. (There's enough
- >idiots in any population to give an untenable position a 5% "For"
- >vote.)
- >
- >2) offers a sort of continuum that might be able to do some of what
- >you want.
-
- I tend to agree with Christopher on this. Recent past history has shown
- that the likelihood of both Ontario and Quebec agreeing to 1) is about nil
- (the supposed EEE senate of the CA is a case in point). As well, an
- argument can be made that a EEE senate is undemocratic.
-
- However, there exists a problem with 2). The main problem is that Ontario
- has in the past believed in a strong central government. Thus, any
- devolution of powers to the provinces would probably meet with a great deal
- of resistance by Canada's largest province, not to mention NACSW, the CAW,
- NAPO, and many other groups that see a strong central government as being
- positive for the country (of course, it's not because it's easier to lobby
- one government rather than 11 :-). Also, the smaller "have-not" provinces
- would most likely also be opposed due to the fear of being left with all
- the responsibilities of these powers, but without the money to administer
- them.
-
- Having said all that I still wouldn't be surprised to see Quebec, Alberta,
- and BC joining forces at some time in the future (e.g., the next round of
- constitutional wrangling) to push for this devolution.
- --
- Jim Robinson
- robinson@mdd.comm.mot.com
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