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- From: pdb059@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov (Paul Bartholomew)
- Newsgroups: ca.politics
- Subject: Re: A Strand of Bigotry
- Message-ID: <197619@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov>
- Date: 20 Nov 92 11:50:24 GMT
- References: <1992Nov19.052244.18536@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <13298@optilink.COM>
- Distribution: world
- Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Image Processing Lab
- Lines: 36
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- In article <13298@optilink.COM>, walsh@optilink.COM (Mark Walsh) writes:
- >
- >> And you have not responded to the point that there are no absolute
- >> rights, and there are conflicts between your right to choose who you
- >> rent to, and the minorities right to be able to rent a house.
- >
- > There are no conflicts here. But those who want to rent
- > should not have the government on their side forcing
- > someone to rent to them. That is a conflict.
-
- Ah, but there are. The conflict is between two rather basic, fundamental
- human rights--the right to Freedom of Association vs. the right to Equal
- Opportunity/Access. Unfortunately, neither of these rights is spelled out
- in detail in either the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence.
- Both, however, can be derived from language in both of the documents. The
- real crux of the argument here is which of these rights should be paramount
- for any given situation.
-
- What many people claim is that the right to equal opportunity/access in such
- fundamental human endeavors as jobs, housing, and such outweighs the right
- to freedom of association. What others claim is that the right to not be
- forced to associate with people you don't want to associate with outweighs
- their right to equal opportunity/access.
-
- So which should be paramount? Damned if I know. I do know, however, that
- this debate up to now has been singularly unproductive because neither side
- is willing to budge. I've posted before on this and, at the same time,
- suggested some compromises that could foster useful debate. I got some
- responses from the people who favor equal opportunity, but got dead silence
- from those who favor freedom of association.
-
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- Paul Bartholomew | Clayton Cramer: "[Brian Kane] and Paul Bartholomew
- | are among the best examples of how screwed-up and
- pdb059@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov | emotionally disturbed homosexuals are."
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