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- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:30:00 GMT
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- Subject: Fowl Language, Foul language
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- [From Hank Folson (921122)]
-
- From the Los Angeles Times, November 18, 1992: A researcher, Irene
- Pepperberg of the U. of Arizona has been teaching an African Grey parrot
- named Alex how to talk (i.e. communicate, not just mimic) for 15 years. The
- bird has a 90 word vocabulary and can label items by color, shape &
- material. When Alex compares 2 items, he can tell which is larger, and what
- attribute is the same or different.
-
- Pepperberg teaches Alex the way she thinks the birds learn in the wild:
- While Alex watches, she teaches another person, rewarding or scolding them
- as they learn the new word. The process is then repeated directly with Alex.
- As a reward to reinforce (their word, not mine) the meaning, Alex is not
- given food, but is given the object he identifies to play with.
-
- There may be a lot of language basics available from this research. Too bad
- they aren't using PCT as there are obvious connections and both the
- researcher & the bird could learn more.
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- Students of Language:
-
- In a recent post on language, I noticed something missing from the post and
- the replies: No one said or asked what the speaker and listener were
- controlling for. What is even stranger to me is that the language posts in
- general, while clearly concerned about applying PCT principles to language,
- often approach the example sentences from the point of view of stimulus-
- response observers who are observing and completely accepting the behavior
- of the speaker and listener. Is there ever any discussion of the controlled
- variable(s)? Doesn't most of the discussion of these linguistic examples
- evaporate when you consider what the speaker is controlling for? The
- statements then usually make perfect sense as controlling actions, even
- though the language structure may leave a lot to be desired.
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- Mary Powers(921116):
-
- Thank you for the excellent capsule summary of PCT research. It was so good
- I must remind the 'net that this was a test of a list of questions based on
- PCT principles to make it easier to initially evaluate theories. Any of you
- interested in PCT applications, please type up if you have a refinement or
- replacement for the list.
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- Best, Hank Folson
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