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- From: c.oneill@trl.oz.au (Chris O'Neill)
- Subject: Re: Negative Gearing
- Message-ID: <1992Nov22.033644.19093@trl.oz.au>
- Sender: root@trl.oz.au (System PRIVILEGED Account)
- Organization: Telecom Australia Research Laboratories
- References: <Bxszyq.LsJ@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au> <1992Nov17.062737.22016@trl.oz.au> <BxusMp.29n@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au> <1992Nov18.005443.8650@trl.oz.au> <1992Nov19.034509.11169@trl.oz.au> <1992Nov19.070558.20320@trl.oz. <chris.722236291@suite.sw.oz.au>
- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:36:44 GMT
- Lines: 58
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- In article <chris.722236291@suite.sw.oz.au> chris@suite.sw.oz.au (Chris Maltby)
- writes:
- >In <1992Nov19.070558.20320@trl.oz.au> c.oneill@trl.oz.au (Chris O'Neill)
- writes:
- >>
- >>Suppose you borrow $100,000 and invest it all under the conditions of the
- above
- >>example (18% interest, 8% inflation, 6% rate of return on investment, 48.25%
- >>tax rate). Suppose you sell if after 1 year for $108,000, i.e. you get a
- >>capital gain equal to inflation. Now the rental return was $6,000, the
- >>interest was $18,000, so the tax deductable loss was $12,000. The reduction
- in
- >>tax reduces this loss to $12,000 (1-0.4825) = $6210. The net gain is the
- >>capital gain minus the loss resulting from rent, interest, and tax reduction,
- >>i.e. $8000 - $6210 = $1790.
- >>
- >>So, you make $1790 and the tax office loses $5790.
- >
- >But the bank who lent you the money has earned $18,000 interest on which it
- >pays tax at 39%. It may have had to offer 12% interest to borrow the money
- >which it lent you, and that will be taxed at someone's marginal rate - for
- >simplicity also 39%. That's $7020 in tax collected. The tax man has also
- >made a net gain of $1230. That is principally at the expense of the nitwits
- >who save their money in banks which pay negative real-after-tax rates of
- >interest.
- >
- >Negative gearing is a transfer of wealth from savers to speculators.
- >When the merry-go-round stops it's the savers who are worse off.
- >And society as a whole loses.
-
- Another way you can think of this is that the lender puts up $100,000 and this
- ends up earning 6% real. So we have a tax system that encourages property-type
- investments that only earn 6% real while at the same time investment in
- manufacturing equipment (that depreciates) that generates 10% real just isn't
- worth doing.
-
- For example say that the interest rate, the inflation rate and the tax rate are
- as above (18%, 8%, 48.25%). Now supposing you can invest in machinery that
- depreciates at the same rate as inflation (and hence its dollar value stays the
- same) and that it produces a rate of return of 10% after its depreciation has
- been allowed for (this means that it has to produce 18% before depreciation is
- taken out).
-
- Now the tax laws as they stand do not allow any (net) depreciation to be
- claimed on this asset because its dollar value doesn't change. This means that
- the gross return on this asset is 18% -18% = 0, which is not going to make
- anyone interested in this investment.
-
- So what we have in our tax system is something that encourages investment in
- non-depreciating assets (property, shares) even though they may have a
- relatively low rate of return and discourages investment in assets that
- depreciate, even though they have a much higher rate of return.
-
- This is what is meant when it is said that Australia has an
- investment-distorting tax system (when inflation is significant).
-
- Chris O'Neill
- Telecom Research
-