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- From: stuarta@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Stuart Andrews)
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- Subject: Re: aus.rail update
- Message-ID: <Bxs2yB.6pM@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU>
- Date: 15 Nov 92 22:10:58 GMT
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- In a recent posting, Eddi Oliver writes...
-
- >>I think these results speak for themselves.
- > For once I agree with you! They speak for themselves in demonstrating that
- > you can only identify 26 people who are even taking enough interest in the
- > matter to be bothered communicating with you about it (and when you
- > remove yourself, it's not even 26).
-
- Yes, It is 26, I hereby add my vote to the list of those who wish to
- see aus.rail created. I won't be reading it, but I do believe that those
- who wish too should have that pleasure. Read on:...
-
- > A number of people have communicated with me also (more than on your list).
- > Needless to say, they have been opponents. Don't you think your sampling
- > process is somewhat biased?
-
- Why have they communicated with *you* and not the proposer? Anything they
- say to you is surely of no significance to the discussion at hand b'cause
- it is a private discussion, and not presented in the proper channels.
-
- > Anyway, when will you formally put it to the vote by whatever the
- > approved route is for getting new aus groups set up?
-
- He will not, b/c there is not. What he has done to date is more than
- that which is required to create a new group in aus. He has to my mind,
- been most polite in establishing first that some *will* read his group.
- His results *DO* speak for themselves.
-
- Further, to my mind, there should *never* be any responses in the negative
- when the creation of a new group is discussed, unless there is *already*
- a group which is a suitable point for the subject planned for the new group.
-
- If I don't want to read the new group, I shall simply not subscribe. If
- everyone on a site doesn't read it, the sys admin simply doesn't receive it.
- No cost to the site. No cost to you.
-
- I don't want to read aus.rail, but I don't believe I have *any* right
- whatsoever to stop those who do. (See the Voltaire quote in my .sig
- and perhaps rethink your motives...)
-
- > Does it have to be done by the normal usenet rules (in which case the
- > number of respondents is likely to be far below the minimum needed) or is
- > there some local protocol?
-
- No. No.
-
-
- Now Eddie, if I may ask, why is it necessary for you to fight aus.rail, rather
- than simply chose not to read? Are we seeing the arrival of a 'thought police'
- mentality? Is '1984' closer than we think?
-
- thanx for 'listening',
-
- stuartb, who couldn't stay quiet on this one any longer...
-
-
-
- --
- "Two to the power of one hundred thousand to one against.
- That's pretty improbable you know" (Ford Prefect)
-
- "I do not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death
- for your right to say it" (Voltaire)
- ################################################################################
- Stuart Andrews (stuarta@syd.dms.csiro.au)
- Opinions posted here are mine and do not necessarily comply with those of CSIRO
-