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- From: mmmirash@banshee.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mandar M. Mirashi)
- Subject: Re: Uniquely fuzzy
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- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:07:12 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov20.090118.12334@waikato.ac.nz> maj@waikato.ac.nz writes:
- >In article <TSOS.179.722160418@uni-duesseldorf.de>, TSOS@uni-duesseldorf.de (Detlef Lannert) writes:
- >> In article <1992Nov15.001709.14852@Princeton.EDU> roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig) writes:
- >>
- >> [...]
- >>>Moreover, a thing can be "quite unique" wrt *one* basis for comparison,
- >>>by not even coming close to anything else. After all, most of the comparisons
- >>>we do are not simply same/different; they take into account degrees of
- >>>difference.
- >> [...]
- >>
- >> The times of the clear "unique"/"not unique" distinction are over.
- >> If there is fuzzy logic in every washing machine you can buy, why
- >> shouldn't it be in the language as well? English couldn't survive
- >> on the world market if it ignored the modern concepts.
- >>
- >> And speakers will always (have to) adapt to their language. So it's
- >> time for everyone to get fuzzy. Or should I say "quite fuzzy"?
- >>
- >
- >Both languages and washing machines would be far better without
- >fuzzy logic. It's the wrong way to handle uncertainty about real
- >events. Because it's purely formal and without any clear semantics
- >I think it's probably the wrong way to handle conceptual vagueness
- >as well.
- >--
-
- That's the funniest thing I've heard today! :) Even computers
- have difficulty in representing events precisely. For example, take
- the case of numbers. When you say "He's 5'10" ", when has the person
- referred to ever been exactly 5'10" feet tall? He could be 5'9.99"
- or 5'10.01" for that matter! Ambiguity always occurs in human speech
- and this because each of us has a different notion about certain
- concepts. Yes, there may be certain events which always result in a
- simple "Yes" or "No" decision (binary for all you computer lingo
- aficionados), but many events are conceived differently by different
- persons. Let me relate the case of our fuzzy logic class. The professor
- asked us to write down at what age a person was considered to be "young".
- When the responses were tallied, they varied in the range from 5-30 years!
-
- Human beings will never be able to converse in precise terms,
- however many milleniums may pass.
-
- Mandar.
-
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