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- From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
- Subject: Re: Programming
- Message-ID: <1992Nov15.180107.23875@ugle.unit.no>
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- Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
- References: <BxMDz2.CGA@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> <1dv7qeINNsi8@ub.d.umn.edu> <OAHVENLA.92Nov14170014@lk-hp-4.hut.fi> <1e3os6INN7h7@ub.d.umn.edu> <mwm.2n4z@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us>
- Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 18:01:07 GMT
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- In article <mwm.2n4z@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us>, mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer) writes:
-
- > Can I have AMOS open a window on the WB? Can I have it not open a
- > window at all, but run in CLI mode? Can I have it not steal a the
- > input stream? Can I have it not disable task switching while it's
- > running? If the answer to any of those is "no", then it's not system
- > compliant.
-
- Well, dunno about AMOS, but in AMOS Pro, there's a demo where a window is opened
- on the workbench, and acts like a shell (interpreting is done by AMOS, tho, NOT
- by the Shell. So you CAN open a WB window, and also execute DOS commands.
- There's a section in the manual about library calls (haven't tried anything yet, I
- only just got it), and it DOES multitask.
-
- > > On the AMOS disks is a HD install program written in AMOS (you
- > > can look at the code if you want too, as an example for any programs you
- > > might want to write). AMOS IS DEFINITELY AN ALTERNATIVE LANGUAGE.
- >
- > For that disk installer, what do you do if you get an "out of space"
- > requester? In a properly written application, you can switch to the WB
- > or open a CLI and go delete things.
-
- You don't. It knows how much space it needs, and will tell you if you don't have
- enough. Anyway, by your definition of a 'properly written application', I've
- NEVER seen a properly written HD-install (except MAYBE the SAS one).
-
- > Everything is an alternative language for SOMETHING. It's just not
- > always clear what that something is. Unless a language can do windows
- > on WB (or public screens in 2.0) and CLI style commands, it's not
-
- Since AMOS allows library calls, you can do ANYTHING (yes, even open a public
- screen).
-
- > suitable for general utilties. Unless you can disable the idiotic
- > stealing of the input stream, it's not suitable for anything that's
- > going to run unattended for longer than your blanker timeout. Unless
-
- What?
-
- > it can open a public screen, it's not suitable for doing productivity
- > tools under 2.0. Unless it can be prevented from disabling
- > multitasking, it's not suitable for anything you might want to use
-
- It doesn't disable multitasking...
-
- > with another tool. After those are eliminated, you want to tell me
- > what's left?
-
- Yeah - egg all over your face :)
-
- Did you eliminate anything? No, you just said 'anything which does(n't) [...]
- isn't a good programming language', without proving that ANY of the things you
- mention apply to AMOS. Check your facts, at least...
-
- > > Again, I'm NOT saying "AMOS is the best language ever wittten and blows
- > > everything away" etc. It does have downfalls (as does ***** EVERY *****
- > > language). Many C (and other language) programmers like to use AMOS
- > > because it is SIMPLE to do VERY COMPLEX THINGS. Again, I am only a user
- >
- > That's a good thing about many languages. That's not a problem; it's
- > that every AMOS program I've ever run into behaves in a completely
- > unacceptable way. Nuts - I've had more bug reports for AMOS than I
- > have for ShadowMaster. Because of that, I'm not going to buy a copy,
- > and I'm certainly not going to pirate one.
-
- Too bad... You're the one that's missing out. (But at least you're honest).
-
- > <mike
-
- -Eyvind
-
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