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- Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
- Subject: Another opinion of diets don't work
- Date: 20 Nov 1992 17:51:28 GMT
- Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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- Steve Dyer writes
-
- >In article <17526@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
- >>>She suggested that we really enjoy eating
- >>>Eat in a calm place without distractions
- >>>Eat anything you want
- >>>Eat until satisfied
- >>
- >>That's exactly what I did for the first 25 years of my life.
- >>At the end of that time I weighed 335 lbs and was gaining at
- >>the rate of 1 pound per month. Just how long was I supposed
- >>to continue trying this method? I think it may work for some
- >>people, but for others it is a quick trip to the morgue.
- >
- >Or a slow one. This is my experience too--I really enjoyed eating, ate
- >w/o distractions, ate anything I wanted, and ate until satisfied, until
- >I discovered one day that a sedentary lifestyle wasn't a choice
- >anymore--I could barely move around anymore without severe distress.
- >(You'd wheeze and sweat too, walking down the block, if you were
- >carrying 300+ pounds.) Of course, I wasn't a follower of Roth's, it was
- >just the way I was: always two helpings instead of one, frequent late
- >night snacking, and restaurant meals a lot.
- >
- more deleted (I can't type that many >`s continously)
-
- I think that both Steve and Gordon, and some other posters are missing
- the main point. Let me see if I can make myself lucid.
-
- All of us who are overweight seem to have lost/never had/ignored the
- unconsious ability to limit the amount of food we eat to what our bodies
- need. This is the ability we go crazy at thin people for having. The
- whole point of what we are trying is to somehow get that ability back
- into our lives. THere seem to be as many ways of doing that as people
- on the planet. What Roth and other people on the 'diet's don't work`
- bandwagon are saying is, find the ability to limit your food by slowly
- but surely taking the complusive eating and overeating habits out of
- your life. IF you have never eaten to the point of bursting when you
- were not even hungry at all, then this may sound completely stupid
- to you. Counting calories or cutting fat or WW or fasts may be fine
- for non-compusive eaters but for compulsive eaters, they just feed
- (ouch, no pun intended) into the cycle of binging -> dieting -> purging
- -> dieting again. I think Geneen Roth made a perfect statement about this
- "For every diet there is an equal and opposite binge". There is
- a big difference bewteen eating what you want and stopping when
- you are full to binging and dieting. IF you gained your weight by
- just slowly accumlating it over the years (or quickly as Gordon
- says) and didn't bounce wildly all over the scale, then stay with
- your diet and exercise plan and all the luck in the world. I'll
- stick with trying to eat three meals a day on a consistent basis
- and not stuffing my face when I'm not hungry, just hurt. No Flames
- intended.
-
- Amy Mossman
-