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- From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
- Subject: Re: [ACLU] Guardian of Liberty: American Civil Liberties Union
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- In article <1ejpr7INNr84@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bu008@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brandon D. Ray) writes:
- >>I'm afraid evolution, as they teach it in public schools, is quite
- >>a bit more absolute that that: It states that this is the correct
- >>explanation of how life reached its present form (and if the teacher
- >>is unusually good) a few bits of evideince to demonstrate that
- >>this is clearly the correct explanation. I don't know of any
- >>teachers that risk confusing students with "we aren't sure, but
- >>this seems to be a good explanation..." lectures.
-
- >I don't know where (or when) you went to school. I went to high school
- >in rural Iowa in the late 70s...
-
- Maryland, in the mid 80's.
-
- >hardly a hardcore bastion of secular
- >humanism...in fact, as late as 1972 (and maybe to this day, for all I
- >know) certain grade school teachers led the students in morning prayer,
- >in open defiance of the SupCt.
-
- That is, perhaps, the reason for our different impressions of the
- teaching of science: Where you went to school, there was (apparently)
- substantial pressure from religious groups, and local opinion that
- had to be satisfied. Without such pressure, the subject is not
- presented the unbaised way you describe.
-
- >[distinguishing between evolution and natural selection...]
- >Natural selection...a description of a mechanism which may drive
- >evolution...is a theory, and is fundamentally unprovable, although the
- >evidence for it is extremely strong.
-
- As soon as you get into the details of a given natural selection
- mechanism, however, the evidence becomes weak.
-
- >My opinion on the whole thing is that science should be taught in
- >science classes, and religion should be reserved for theology
- >or comparative religion classes.
-
- So where would you put unproven scientific theories that contradict
- religious teachings? That concerns both religion and science.
-
- Frank Crary
- CU Boulder
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