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Path: sparky!uunet!charon.amdahl.com!pacbell.com!sgiblab!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!biosci!agate!stanford.edu!morrow.stanford.edu!pangea.Stanford.EDU!liza From: liza@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Liza Miller) Newsgroups: alt.sewing Subject: Holiday Gift Ideas (summary of suggestions) Message-ID: <1eehcmINNff@morrow.stanford.edu> Date: 18 Nov 92 22:51:02 GMT Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences Lines: 670 NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu My original request: My family made an agreement to make all our gifts this year in an attempt to save money. Soooooo, I am soliciting great ideas. I already have some, but I know this group will have many, many more to consider. There is no theme other than thoughtful gifts that are fun to make. The best part about this gift idea is that my mother and my best friend are having me over for gift making weekends. It's going to be such fun to have a couple of relaxing, creative weekends. Here is an idea to get the creative juices flowing: Earring holders: Make a frame around plastic needlepoint canvas. Decorate the canvas and or the frames in order to make it more personal. The earrings hang from the canvas. I plan to include a pair of handmade earrings with this gift (so they'll know what the heck it is! :) And your great responses: Date: 09 Nov 1992 13:40:04 -0600 From: vusl@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (VU Science Library) What about aprons? They would be easy to personalize. One of the sewing mags suggested a sewing apron, one with pockets for those little sewing things that tend to wander all over the house. You could include a flannel patch for pins, thin pockets for sewing gauges, etc. We got a quilted tea cozy as a wedding gift, which we like a lot. Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 15:26:01 EST From: Tracy Gindles Perger <tgpr@troi.cc.rochester.edu> I'm trying to save a few $$ this year too. I've decided to make boxer shorts for my boyfriend, who expressed interest in them. I've been watching the fabric sales and getting crazy patterns in 100% cotton cloth--ie, Halloween ghosts, Santa's, etc. Also, one company has boxer-stamped cloth--just cut on the correct size line and sew! From: Joann Bessler <joann@geology.ubc.ca> Date: 9 Nov 1992 22:36:01 GMT My parents made this rule when I was 7 or 8. Like all good rules it has exceptions. For instance, "Santa" provides a store-bought toy to each child. The econimic issue isn't the only one to consider here. I think it's a great way to tone down the commercialism of the season. Here are a few ideas for you: cloth napkins with or without a matching tablecloth linen handkerchiefs (lace edging would be nice if you have the skills) crocheted table runner or doily personalized bookmark (crocheted, quilted, cross-stitched, etc.) canvas shopping bag (you could decorate it with fabric paints) silk scarves When I was little I made a lot of scarves (knitted and sewn) and coasters. My daughter paints pictures which we frame for grandma and grandpa. Everyone can get into this act! Joann Bessler joann@geology.ubc.ca Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 12:53:00 EST From: srajag@paul.rutgers.edu (Subhashini Rajagopalan) I have an idea and it is worth trying. I don't know if you have come across Tulip Color Point paints in the craft stores? Well, if you have, you know what I am talking about. Else, let me tell you about it. These are paints which are used to form beads over a pattern. They give the appearance of cross-stitch when completed. I am sure you can find these in crafts stores there. Infact, you even get books that come with ideas and transfer patterns. You can transfer the patterns by ironing it onto cloth, and make beads of paint over the pattern. Books are available with holiday ideas, pebble- art patterns, floral designs and a whole lot of other designs. Patterns can be used on clothes, sweat-shirts, make framed art etc. After looking at some of the books, I have some ideas. You can make a bathroom set. Use Color Point to decorate bath-towels, shower curtains ( buy plain cheap ones and use paint on it), waste basket (use plain plastic ones). The idea is to use ordinary stuff and transform them into elegant pieces. Use it on a white lace table-cloth or doilly(excuse my spelling!) to accentuate the lace design. Pastel shades work best. Let your imagination take over and you can create wonderful unique gifts. The best part of these projects is they don't take much time. You can even use other paints such as scribbles etc., along with Color Point to create new designs of your own. Note: If you find Tulip paints a bit expensive, there are paints available by other companies as well, though I don't know how good they are. Wait till you get them cheap in a sale. There are lot of sales going on now. Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 13:51:45 -0500 From: Anne Louise Gockel <alg@cs.cornell.edu> Psuedo-archive from alg@cs.cornell.edu; see the FAQ for rec.crafts.textiles File: sewing/gift.suggestions Last major editing: 8/30/92 =============================================================================== From: pkee@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Pamela L. Kee) Subject: Clocks... Date: 10 Jan 92 17:12:55 GMT For those who might not get alt.sewing..... This is a repost from jane@syrinx.umd.edu I hope Jane doesn't mind sharing this with rec.crafts.textiles .... On the subject of handmade gifts, here's a embarassingly easy gift that I've made several times, and has ALWAYS been enthusiastically received. A clock! My father had a couple of clockworks pieces lying around, that he hadn't used, so he gave them to me. So, I bought one of those cutsey pre-printed panels at the fabric store. Then I put one of the panels together with batting and backing, and roughly quilted the two pieces together. All I did was use freehand sewing, nothing really fancy. Oh, you can get fancy if you like. 8-)) Anyway...I finished the edges so they wouldn't ravel, then bought an embroidery hoop that fit the panel, cut a piece of heavy cardboard in a circle, and put the whole thing together. Oh yes, for the numbers you can embroider them, as I did for one of the clocks (but then, I had access to a computerized sewing machine at the time), or just write them on with a permanent black marker. For the hole in the middle for the clock hands, sew a tiny buttonhole. To assemble this, you fito the clock into the embroidery hoop, and glue it in. THis is difficult to do without making a mess. Just try not to make the mess on the right side of the clock. 8-)) Trim the excess fabric from around the hoop, and insert the cardboard circle. It should fit very tightly. Then insert the clockworks into the hole you should have made in the cardboard, and put on the hands and stuff. For finishing, you might want to glue ruffled lace or trim on the outside of the hoop. Believe me, if I'd known it was this easy I would have made them YEARS ago! Every friend who has received one of these proudly displays them always, and brags to their friends about who made it. Even my father loved his, and he knows how easy they are! 8-)) Have fun! Clockworks can be found in any hobby shop, for a very reasonable price, and a one yard panel from the fabric store can make about 6 clocks, depending on the size of the picture. Hmm....I have this adorable animal print, and one more clockwork set...... Jane From: yvonne@deorali.Corp.Sun.COM (Yvonne Wilson) Subject: Re: Handmade Gifts Date: 8 Jan 92 21:40:03 GMT Some handmade gifts that I've made or received: 1. Satin covered hangers These were padded and covered with satin. They are great for hanging nice blouses and dresses on so you don't get 'points' at the shoulders left by cheap metal hangers. 2. Lingerie/Jewelry bags These are very useful for people who travel a lot. I don't travel much, but find them useful for organizing my lingerie/jewelry drawers. These are constructed 2 ways - 1) Like an accordion-pleated file folder or 2) a long strip of pockets that hangs in a closet or rolls up for traveling. Mine were done in satin but any interesting fabric would do. 3. Napkins/Table Runner I have made napkins and matching table runner or placemats which have been very well received. Napkins are very easy. If you don't have much time, just make napkins and buy matching placemats, which take longer to make. Most people will use cloth napkins, at least on special occasions, so you just have to pick a fabric that they would like. A floral is usually a pretty safe bet. 4. Fabric covered storage boxes. These will usually be put to good use. If a person really likes them, they will use them in a prominent spot in their home. Again, fabric choice here is essential. 5. Fabric lunch bag or large all purpose shoulder bag. For people that take a lunch to school/work, a fabric lunch bag is useful and good for the environment. A large all-purpose shoulder bag with a few pockets (made out of sturdy fabric) is great for carrying crafts, going to the beach, carrying gym clothes, etc. Most people can find a use for such a bag (unless they already have enough!) My favorite gift is the napkins/table runner. Everyone that I've given a set to uses them a lot! I've seen patterns for all the above ideas (except perhaps the hangers) in various pattern books at the fabric store. Date: Fri, 10 Jan 92 15:42:18 PST From: Yvonne.Wilson@Corp.Sun.COM (Yvonne Wilson) I always finished my napkins (cut 18"x18") by folding over 1/4" twice and straight stitching, either with matching or metallic thread. This yielded napkins 17"x17" and I was able to get 4 per yard. I tried mitered corners once, but they came out too 'pointy' for my taste, so I just use the simpler technique of doing one side (folding over twice) and then the adjacent side. I didn't have a serger previously but I just got one for Christmas so I'm anxious to try it out. My mother has made me a couple of nice napkin sets with satin-stitch edging done on her serger. This looks a little more elegant, especially when done with metallic thread. The table runners I have made have been very simple. I make them 'reversible', choosing a print (usually same print as napkin) for one side, and a complementary solid for the other. So, they are just two strips of fabric. In the past I've just relied on choosing nice fabrics/prints. If I ever have the time (ha ha) I would love to experiment with piecing and/or quilting. The flying geese pattern you mentioned sounds quite nice. My mother does a lot of silk painting and made me a painted silk table runner once which was very pretty. I would imagine painted silk or painted cottons would both be nice. I got a book on fabric marbling recently, if I ever get around to getting the necessary supplies I'd like to try that out. I did make one very nice set of reversible placemats once. One side was a marroon print. The other side was pieced - mostly dark blue but 2 opposite corners were a triangle of the marroon print. Covering the seam between the two I stitched a cream colored satin ribbon. I used a very stiff sew-in (not fused) interfacing between the two sides. These took a lot of work, and I haven't done another set. Hope that helps. Let me know if you had any other questions. Thanks for sharing your ideas! From: bloch@informatics.wustl.edu (Charlene Bloch Abrams) Date: 9 Jan 92 23:05:13 GMT In article <odP8s1G00WBN02Cn8O@andrew.cmu.edu> kk00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kathleen P. Kowalski) writes: >My sister-in-law and my best friend are both expecting babies. Does >anyone have some craft ideas (preferably easy things) that I could make >for them? Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks! > - cross stitch bibs (you can get bibs with a panel for cross-stitching on) - stuffed animals (get a kit, wing it, or look in the library) - buy baby t-shirts and decorate with fabric paints or applique or some kind of stitching (cross stitch, other embroidery, etc) - diaper stacker. This is easy. The bottom is a rectangle about 8 x 11. The top is the width of a hanger with swivel top. Cut a large rectangle (or make a patchwork rectangle) with dimensions = (8+8+11+11) x (height you want it to be, say 24 inches). The opening is centred at the front long (11") end. Pleat the top to fit the hanger. I'd recommend lining everything to minimize raw edges. - baby quilt. Either do easy patchwork (bargello or somesuch) or buy a pre-printed panel from a fabric store. Attach batting and underside and finish with the ruffle-binding also available at fabric stores. - design and make a diaper bag with lots of pockets for bottles, snacks, ointments etc, that either has a pocket containing a padded vinyl changing area, or has a pocket that unzips and unfolds to become one. It should also be able to attach to stroller handlebars easily (loops with snaps or velcro). - make a fabric ball or blocks, and inside the stuffing insert a bell or 2, so they rattle/jingle when the baby plays with them. - make an "activity quilt" like the ones by playschool. It's a square (about 3' x 3') with all sorts of activities - a mirror, an attached teething ring, small, flattish teddy velcroed on, numbers, etc. Make buttonholes on 3 corners and attach a button the the 4th, and it's a tote bag. There's also a wonderful book by McCalls, I think, called something like "treasury of things to make for baby" that has good ideas too. From: bambi@visenix.UUCP (Hilda) Date: 9 Jan 92 10:30:56 GMT women: decorative pocket hankies earring and or brooches made from buttons(they are REAL fancy these days) traveling organizer bags (cosmetics,shoes etc.) evening bag men good linen hankerchief unisex:emergency overnight kit(small bag fitted with toiletries with room for undies and a clean shirt also called airport sos) phone index car organizer desk lunch kit(including washable plastic lined lunch bag and placemat quilted insulated drink cozy,coaster,and generous sized cloth napkin)(environmentalists love this one!shouldn we ALL???) school age kids could also benefit from the lucnh kit. happy creating! genie with the dark brown skin..and the pricked fingers! summer 1992: See my posting on robes, particularly as a wedding gift, etc. I made a great picnic/emergency basket that would be a wonderful gift. I used a plastic wastebasket and made a simple draw-string bag that held it closely. The wastebasket is about 12" in diameter and stands about 18" high. Inside I put: a simple tablecloth (have you ever *looked* at those picnic tables?) matching napkins (3 yards cheap cloth; 2 yards for table cloth and 1 yard cut into quarters for napkins) two wine glasses two regular glasses (for drinks and as backups in case there are four people) several plastic water cups (water, soda, whatever) silverware, small serated knife (for cutting bread) sharp paring/steak knife chopsticks (for takeout Chinese and stirring drinks) small bread board (actually, half of a 8"x8" board that broke in half (you could carefully sand short piece of nice wood book-shelf instead, maybe maple or oak?) wine cork puller crushed red peppers (for takeout pizza) salt/pepper (soy sauce?) box of matches (crucial for a non-smoker who always forgets!) two decks of cards with pad of paper and small pencil (two decks to allow pinochele playing) some cheap plastic plates (I actually used the disposable plastic ones that you can re-use, but I hope to get some better ones) small container (hotel shampoo container?) of dish soap for washing up? book of poetry? only appropriate for some couples! Wrap the glassware up in the napkins and use the tablecloth to make sure everything gets cushioned. Put silverware, etc, inside the plastic cups. The plates can sit on top like a sorta cover within the drawstring bag. The plastic wastebasket doubles as a ice-bucket/wine-cooler. Great for last minute "picnic in the park" after work or to bring while traveling. Good for a planned BBQ or impromtu take-outs. For a couple, having 4 plates and extra silverware means the basket can be used a couple of times between washing on a trip. If you really stock it this full it's not real cheap ($30-40?). But it's a really nice carry-along and great to just keep in the car!!! Look in a Thrift Store or at garage sales for the glasses, plates and silverware. For a wedding gift, make up a picnic basket and in the card put some $$$ for a night in a hotel and a couple of meals. From: janez@base.bellcore.com (Jane Zysk) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 92 16:38:57 GMT In several gift stores, I've seen fabric covered herb hotplates...the ones where you put your hot tea pot on them and the heat releases a wonderful aroma, and I decided to make some as Christmas gifts. I'm drying some garden grown Rosemary and Thyme, and have made several quilt blocks for the top covers. My question is, what's the best method for making the "guts" of the hotplate? I thought of making a muslin pouch, sewing the herbs inside, and then putting the completed pouch inside a cover made out of the quilt square. Is this a good idea? Has anybody made these herb hotplates and do you have any advise to share? From: Joann Bessler <joann@geology.ubc.ca> Subject: Re: Herb Hotplate I have never made these, but the Dec/Jan 89 issue of "Cross Quick" has instructions. Perhaps your library has back issues? To summarize: Use a fabric liner (they used cotton), and medium-weight polyester batting. Slip two layers of batting into the liner, then insert herbs or potpourri between the batting layers. Then insert the liner into your cover. Naturally, their design calls for cross stitched aida. Let us know how it works out, I've been tempted to make some for quick gifts. From: m1ges01@fed.frb.gov (Gretchen E Schmidt) Date: 21 Oct 92 15:44:36 GMT Jane Zysk writes > What's the best method for making the1 > "guts" of the hotplate? I thought of making a muslin > pouch, sewing the herbs inside, and then putting the > completed pouch inside a cover made out of the quilt > square. You might want to put a layer of that semimetallic, heat resistant stuff (like in potholders) on the bottom, inside, so that you're sure no heat will get through to the furniture on which one sets the pad and pot. If your fabric store doesn't have it, Nancy's Notions probably does (800-765-0960). It sounds like a great gift. I once gave someone a small version of these, like coasters. Alas, I bought them. From: charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna) Date: 10 Nov 92 00:33:53 GMT The Singer books have some ideas for gifts, especially the _Creative Sewing <mumble>_ one, which has instructions for making portfolios, padded bags (like makeup bags or purses) and nifty belts. I wouldn't mind getting an Ultrasuede portfolio. :-) Something I did recently and will probably do again is to take fabric covered heart-shaped boxes, embellish them with lace and ribbon, then fill them with a dozen of my homemade White Chocolate and Macadamia Nut cookies (wrapped in cellophane, not plastic wrap). I got the boxes at MacFrugal's (formerly Pic N Save); they ran from 99 cents to $2.99. I've been collecting interesting baskets and picnic hampers all year, and everyone I know is getting an individualized gift basket for Christmas, each with a different theme. From: noa@elaine25.Stanford.EDU (Noa More) Date: 9 Nov 92 16:45:24 A few years ago my brother-in-law and his wife made fleece jackets for several people on their Christmas list. They bought fleece in lots of colors and mixed/matched them in the jackets. Buying five colors of fleece for one jacket is a pain, but for 10 it's quite reasonable. It really justifies the price of the pattern too. The following year they made beautiful wooden cutting boards, but this is the wrong group for that. Last year my husband and I made fanny packs that unfold into backpacks for several people on our list. I monogrammed the fronts of the packs before we assembled them, and they came out very nice. I still have some of the fabric, and I plan to make a few more this year. It really does help to make several of the same project, using different colors or trims but leaving the basic pattern unchanged. This goes especially for anything with complicated seams or folding. You could also consider buying the basic project and decorating it with fabric paint or applique. Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:33:53 -0500 From: "Karen L. Frisa" <kf1j+@andrew.cmu.edu> Here are a couple of ideas off the top of my head: a jewelery roll pillow covers canvas tote/shopping bag/project bag snuggly flannel nightie lingerie might be fun... I'm sure other people will have better ideas, but I wanted to share mine before I take theirs... :-) Karen From: dmd@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (debra.m.dicke) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:09:54 GMT Bathrobes made out of nice fat towels (see RD sewing book) Threads had a neet backpack pattern this month made from scraps Beaded earrings (have you seen the prices at craft fairs !!!!) Framed quilt squares Picture frames Puppets Pillows (letters to spell names, made out of T-shirts, quilted ...) Wild vests Naturally, I'm doing **all** of these this year..... Article: 5498 of alt.sewing From: suzka@hardy.u.washington.edu (Suzanne Soroczak) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:03:34 GMT This year I am making several different gifts for my friends and family. 1) popourri hats to hang on a wall. Needed: small crochet hat ($.79), 12" lace and 12" colored ribbon ($1.00). Lace doilie ($1.00) Hot glue gun. If you put the popourri in the hat top, secure with light pantyhose. Place a lace doilie over the back. On the front of the hat attach lace and ribbon. I also put a small ribbon on for hanging. I've made several and they look and smell wonderful. The best part is they are easy and inexpensive!!! 2) hat boxes. Needed: cardboard box and lid. outside material, inside (lining) material. Beads or other decorations. This is a little more expensive, but again I made with glue gun. I used a silking material for the lining and used different sized boxes so I could make them a matching pair. 3) I also spent about 2 days painting clothes pins. Soldiers on one side and santa claus on the other. needed: 50 small clothes pins ($1.00) and red, black, white, and blue paint. I'm not the best artist, but they look close enough to be cute. I am going to attach them to all the packages I give out. From: janez@base.bellcore.com (Jane Zysk) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 17:04:17 GMT I often make cross stitch Christmas ornaments for friends and family, although, depending on the size and complexity of the pictures, this can get time consuming. Last year I made fabric covered hangers for my sisters and Grandma-in-law. I had some dark green satin left over from a dress I had made, so that's what I used. They were really beautiful and were the hit of the day! And they're really easy. I can post the instructions, if anyone is interested. From: peggys@orca.wv.tek.com Date: 10 Nov 92 21:25:19 GMT Xstitch Xmas cards...I use Xstitch ornament patterns that will fit inside the oval/square cutout in the front of the card. You can buy the pre-made cards/with cutouts in some needlework stores. Some are in kits & come with patterns. The whole card is usually 5x7 and I have had people frame them so the card itself doubles as a mat. From: carolyn@bucket.rain.com (Carolyn Peterson) Date: 11 Nov 92 17:37:57 GMT Last year I made tree ornaments with our children's pictures in them that were big hits with the grandparents. I used a small picture-- the friendship size for each one. How to: Cut out a cardboard donut to frame the picture Cut out a cardboard circle, the same diameter as the donut Glue a thin layer of batting to one side of each piece (the outside) Cover the batting with holiday fabric Glue lace or eyelet trim on the inside edge of the circle Glue the picture to the inside of the circle piece Glue the circle and the donut together Add a red velvet bow to the top of the ornament Attach gold cord to hang with I will probably make more of these this year. Most of the gifts I have finished are clothing items that various people have requested. I have also made two sets of placemats with matching napkins for gifts. From: tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan) Date: 11 Nov 92 08:05:43 GMT Well, I've done lots of sewing for gifts over the past few years, mostly for the children - things that have been special favorites were matching outfits for my daughter and one (or more!) of her friends, matching or coordinating sibling outfits, a coordinating kid/mom outfit (a shirt for mom, and pants made of the same fabric for the kid) and snap crotch shirts with long sleeves. Particularly popular have been items made with cotton velour - I used to be able to get it on the NY Fabrics back tables, but they've discontinued the tables, so I have no suggestions for how to get it (for less than the $14/yd I've seen in the fabric stores). From: thompson@gumby.mgi.com Date: 12 Nov 92 09:43:06 CST Re: holiday gift ideas For the kids: Get the patterns for the BIG Raggedy Ann and Andy dolls, most of the fabrics can be found in the remanants (sp) bins at the fabric store. And the kids love to get these dolls the same size as them! Really bizarre: Make an entirely white Raggedy Ann doll - I made this for my Sister-in-law. She wanted it all white to go in her living room, everyone loves it and thinks its the coolest thing. It gives me the creeps. maggie (too lazy to use the dictionary) From: lkoch@troy.hssc.ksc.nasa.gov Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:49:57 GMT One of the things that I have recently started sewing was ties. The current fashion trend includes ties for women so I have made a couple I wear to work and always gets compliments. I then cover buttons with matchine material and glue earring backs on it. Also, my sister told me a way to make a decorative scarf that are a big hit up near Detroit where she is from. I've also taken store-bought sweatshirts and made jackets out of them that has also been a hit. Just a few new ideas. From: gorman@acsu.buffalo.edu (Anne-Marie K. Gorman) Date: 12 Nov 92 21:34:09 GMT Hats, mittens, scarves, ear warmers, those things that look like big loose turtlenecks without the body and sleeves (neck warmers?). Potpourri or lavendar sachets for drawers. Herb bouquets. Decorated photo albums (especially nice for newlyweds, new parents, and others who are starting a new chapter in life) (if this counts--you have to buy the photo album). Special-purpose bags, e.g. for skis, for tennis racquet and gear, for chess equipment, for needlework, etc. A calendar where each month has a different family photograph (you can buy the pages for the months or make them yourself). Glasses cases. Lampshades. From: vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff) Date: 12 Nov 92 22:21:16 GMT >Hats, mittens, scarves, ear warmers, those things that look like big >loose turtlenecks without the body and sleeves (neck warmers?). Wimples! :-) Big enough to come up and cover the head, as needed.... Has someone already said Christmas stockings? Crocheted "snowflake" tree ornaments can be fairly quick and are certainly inexpensive. I had a pattern once (well, probably still have it, but don't know where it is) for a star that is made from ribbon -- all folded. These are nice as ornaments, too, and are easy to make. I've thought of using PostScript to make everyone a calendar that had all the family birthdays, etc, on the appropriate days, but I haven't done it.... From: riggle@adobe.com (Kathleen Riggle) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:09:30 GMT >I've thought of using PostScript to make everyone a calendar that had all >the family birthdays, etc, on the appropriate days, but I haven't done it.... My sister did this one year, but she took it a step farther. She is an artist, so she painted watercolor paintings for everyone, mounted them on foam board and then printed the calendars with some calendar software she had (it was pretty basic.) She put the calendar pages at the bottom of the foam board. After the year was over, you could cut the foam board in half and frame the picture. Of course, last time I was home, I noticed my grandmother still had the orignal calendar hanging in her house. I think it was from 1986. :-) You could also put a child's piece of artwork on the top or a photo or cross-stitch or whatever. -- Liza Lee Miller My dogs are labradorable! liza@pangea.stanford.edu Cibola Labradors Field * Show * Fun 415/326-5309 Cibola's Misty Mountain Hop--Hopper Mistypoint Kashmir--Kash Campbellcroft Cibola Rosette -- Rosie