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- From: J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
- Subject: Re: Flaming Conservative (Re: Liberals DO oppose First Amendment rights)
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- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 17:17:17 GMT
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- In <15NOV199221081276@zeus.tamu.edu>:
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- >In article <BxoBI8.39r@news.iastate.edu>, barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett
-
- >| I would be happy to. A few weeks ago, some femists here at Iowa State
- >|started really pushing the proposed Equal Rights Amendment to the Iowa
- >|Constitution. They put signs up EVERYWHERE pushing the admendment and
- >|advertizing rallies by true feminazis like Eleanor Smeal. Many of the
- >|signs were outright male-bashing, such as the ones that headlined
- >|"WE REMEMBER ANITA HILL!!!!"
-
- >Yes, it certainly is terrible. Those people tearing down the signs
- >certainly are not liberal, though. They are apparently not open to ideas,
- >as being liberal entails.
-
- You use the term "liberal" in the classical sense--the type of "liberal" which
- accepts all points of view and is open to new ideas--like the dictionaries do.
- The problem is that few "liberals" today are liberals in the classical sense.
- Most advocate *some* degree of left-wing government fascism, just as many "con-
- servatives" of today advocate *some* right-wing fascism. The term "liberal"
- in the classical sense most resembles today's "libertarian" (small l).
-
- >Here on this campus, we experience just the opposite. Flyers hung
- >up for liberal causes get torn down by conservatives who fear change.
-
- With this kind of activity, I can see some need for campus control (yuck) of
- signs and posters--provided that the rules are equally applied to people of all
- ideologies. If signs are somehow "registered" with adminstration (so as to
- identify "ownership" of the signs), then the university can forbid removal of
- the signs except by the "owner" group. The ban on removal of these signs could
- last for a certain period of time (say a week), and then would be fair game.
- Of course, there would be no *requirement* to register signs, but there would
- be no protection against sign removal without such registration. And as I said
- before--the rules for sign approval MUST be non-partisan and free of ideology.
-
- It probably wouldn't work in the real world, but at least in theory it would
- be fair and would be at least some protection against signs being removed.
-
- Let's face it--people of X tear down the signs of Y and vice-versa. Why does
- the "you do it more" argument matter? Isn't that stereotyping all members of a
- group? Isn't that like saying "Liberals tear down signs. You are a liberal.
- Therefore, you favor censorship." Bullpuckey.
-
- >I'd say there are opponents of free speech in every camp and on
- >every side.
-
- Yep.
-
- >Are you people too stupid to realise this?
-
- Not stupid; just blinded by ideology, I think.
-
-
- Tim Irvin
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-