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- From: 6500ursa@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Disco Junkie)
- Newsgroups: alt.romance
- Subject: Re: H*ll of a situation!
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- Date: 18 Nov 92 21:52:59 GMT
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- In article <7593@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> doughe@tekig6.PEN.TEK.COM (Douglas E Helbling) writes:
-
- >In article <1992Nov12.163019.1802@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_arthurjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
- >>I haven't met a nice young woman to have a rewarding relationship
- >>with in over two years. Love just isn't on my side. I'm sort of shy
- >>What, if anything, can I do to get out of this predicament?
-
- >>Jay
-
- Time to stop lurking and throw in my $.02 worth. Isn't this a typical
- complaint that one hears in this newsgroup? I can relate to this because I was
- in this predicament, too. Now, look at the standard advice given below...
-
- > 1) Continue to be yourself. But try to make a sublte point of some
- > aspects of you or your life that differentiate the nice you
- > from the tame and boring you.
-
- > 2) Go places that that nice women go and be yourself there.
-
- > 3) Keep going there. Persistance and consistency are the
- > magic words here.
-
- This is your typical advice, well meaning, correct, and will work. However,
- for most people in this predicament, it is of little use, because one does
- not know HOW to be oneself, or how to not try as hard, or how not to lose
- faith. Don't get me wrong, the ideas are right, but there is no form or
- organization in how to do it. Here's what I did to break out of that rut.
- I"ve used weightlifting as my model. One doesn't just go out and try the
- heaviest weight, one adds weight slowly and gets used to it. The same with
- dating. One starts out in low pressure situations and adds more pressure
- little by little. This is basically a trial-and-error model. You must
- be willing to make, and learn from your mistakes! By the way, I'm not
- a cassanova, or hansomely good looking, but just an average guy. But, from
- watching people who are successful in dating, I've noticed a few things...
-
- 1)First, learn to be happy by oneself. After a breakup, I took two months
- off from actively trying to have a social life, and learned to do things
- on my own (taught myself cooking, went to social dance class with NO
- intention of meeting others, work on projects, etc) It's okay to do
- things with other people, but one should wipe out any thoughts of meeting
- other people, in order to take off pressure. During this stage, one is
- trying to break the mindset/habit that one can only be happy with another
- person, or that one "needs" a relationship. This is very low pressure.
- Work on this important stage, as only those happy with themselves can
- move on to stage #2. It's also important to start paying attention to
- your looks, not for others, but for yourself (and in preparation for the
- other stages ahead).
-
- 2)Once one feels less of a "need" to have a relationship, then concentrate
- on making friends of the same sex. Here, one is learning the skills of
- social intercourse. It's not too intimidating, since one is only trying to
- learn to make conversation, and be a friend. Put oneself in a social
- situation like this so often that one will be used to it.
-
- 3)Now, try to make friends of the opposite sex (or same sex, for some of you).
- Honestly, just friends. Don't even THINK of romance at this stage.
- (Of course, if something comes your way...well...) One is just trying to
- get used to talking to members of the opposite sex as human beings, not as
- romance/sex objects. Remember, JUST FRIENDS.
-
- 4)If you've done stage 3 correctly, then you should have lots of friends of
- the opposite sex by now, and some of them might be interested in you, since
- you are calm and NOT NEEDY FOR A RELATIONSHIP (which is a big turn-on).
- Now, you're gonna start flirting, NOTHING MORE, with those that you
- feel comfortable with. In this stage, one will learn to flirt. You will
- also learn when not to flirt through experience. You are learning to read
- body signals. Remember, don't even THINK of romance yet...
-
- 5)If you did stage 5 correctly, then with some, the flirting will be intense.
- Ask them out to a date. Here, one is learning to run a successful date.
- Again, don't even THINK of romance at this stage. You might want to even
- date through the personals, just to get experience. Putting too much
- pressure on the first date is often a big turn-off. You will learn
- not to do that at this stage, through trial and error.
-
- 6)Now, by this stage, you should have lots of dates. Now take those that
- you've most enjoyed, and concentrate of romance in this stage. If you've
- dated a lot of people, then a few of them should be interested in you.
- If not, go back a few stages and try again.
-
- I don't want to make this too long. Other posters on this newsgroup can
- fill in the blanks for me. You know who you are. And remember, your mileage
- may vary...what works for you may not work for me and vica versa. Now back to
- work.
-