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- From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
- Newsgroups: alt.romance
- Subject: Re: I know she takes me for granted, but...
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.182214.24828@jetsun.weitek.COM>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 18:22:14 GMT
- References: <1e5d68INNgue@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
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- In article <1e5d68INNgue@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ch617@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brad Hill) writes:
- >
- >
- >I have a friend who's very attractive, and often feels she getts
- >attention because of it (it doesn't bother her, I don't think).
- >I saw with that attitude, she probably wouldn't appreciate someone
- >like me, who doesn't pay much attention to looks (I know girls who
- >most people would agree with me are much better looking, and don't
- >have this attitude).
- >
- There is always at least one exceptional person for each rule, but
- most people have desires which conflict between believing the other
- person finds them physically attractive and that the other person is
- attracted to their 'true self'. Even attractive people want to be
- reassured that you find them attractive (but remember you have to
- balance that with showing that you are not just interested in their
- looks).
-
- If you enjoy being with someone, you can't help enjoying seeing them.
- And if you enjoy seeing them, then convincing them that you find them
- attractive usually just means being open about the fact that you enjoy
- seeing them. It really doesn't matter why you enjoy seeing them, as
- long as you can communicate that enjoyment.
-
- > To be truthful, I believe I became her friend
- >because she seemed so *lonely* and I thought could use one. So, when
- >she's down, I call to see how she's doing, tell her funny stories to
- >make her laugh, send her cards telling her she's on my mind. I've
- >known her for over 2 years, and to this date she has not done a single
- >thing in return. I mean, one time I had a personal problem and started
- >telling her about it, and her response was: "Well, I think I'm going to
- >go to sleep now."
- >
- Ouch. That does sound bad.
-
- > She tells me (usually over the phone) how she
- >likes me more than "just about anyone else she can think of" when
- >I try to tell her I'd rather not carry on this one-way friendship.
- >
- >I think she knows I'm a nice guy, but has no interest in reciprocating.
- >She takes up a lot of my time and energy, and I really think there are
- >much better ways to spend them, so what do I do about her? It would
- >be worth it if I would get a friend in return, but do you think there's
- >a chance she'd change if I "not give up on her"? This is exactly what I
- >feel would happen if I cut her loose.
- >
- From what you have said, it does sound like you are stuck. But before
- you give up, I would suggest you try something different. If you were
- going to give up, what more do you have to lose? I can't give you any
- great plans, but I can give you a few suggestions.
-
- It sounds like you are doing a good job of being ingratiating. She
- enjoys your attention. But she takes you for granted. You shouldn't
- stop being pleasing but you should try to get her to stop taking you
- for granted.
-
- You can try to get her stop taking you for granted a couple of ways.
- The first is to not be there all the time. I can't tell from you post,
- but if you are always there for her, she will take you for granted.
- Make a point to be somewhere else occasionally when she expects to see
- or hear from you.
-
- The second is jealousy. You should go easy on this one, but if you want
- to create the impression in her mind that you might be snapped up by
- someone else at any time. Date other women (if you aren't already), and
- let it drop in a gentlemanly way that you are dating other women, and
- that you are enjoying it. You can combine this with the first
- suggestion ('sorry, I can't see you but I have a date').
-
- Also, it sounds like you could work on your attitude. I know you don't
- want to hear it, and it is hard to change. But if you feel that what
- you are giving her is not valuable, neither will she. You aren't being
- a nice guy, you are taking care of some of her emotional needs for
- free. Just because you are willing to do this does not mean that
- everyone is.
-
- >Are nice guys nice because they get something out of giving, even when
- >there's no return?
- >
- You can enjoy a one way relationship (think of a parent and child), but
- only if you can really give up expectations of the relationship becoming
- reciprocal. You can get a lot of satisfaction in giving, but not if
- you feel that by doing so, you are messing up a potential SO-type
- relationship. I don't think in this case you can expect to keep this
- relationship one sided and keep it going, because you really want
- something more.
-
- Peace,
- Michael.
-