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- From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa)
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- Subject: Re: What is this newsgroup about?
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- Date: 22 Nov 92 10:16:48 GMT
- References: <DRW.92Nov17151157@kronecker.mit.edu> <1992Nov18.215740.22344@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> <1992Nov19.141323.25627@hellgate.utah.edu>
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- In article <1992Nov19.141323.25627@hellgate.utah.edu> galt%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu writes:
- >
- >The advantage of democracy over dictatorship is inertia. A dictator
- >can change his mind every day, implementing a bunch of insane programs.
- >In a democracy, you have to convince 51% of the people before you
- >can get your programs through. The programs are not necessarily
- >better, but chances are you will only have a lot of insane programs
- >if most of the population has gone insane.
-
- I disagree here. A dictatorship is, and has been, a very stabilizing
- factor politically in many countries because of its policies; however,
- it doesn't necessarily mean that reforms are not introduced into the
- society. Case in poin is Iraq. While the Ba'ath Party maintains an
- iron fisted policy and is extremely ruthless in enforcing its position,
- it has, infact, provided many necessary social and economic reforms.
-
- Now, the West may allow certain freedoms socially and politically for
- its citizens, as well as a limited role in policy making and reforms,
- but it is the corruption of the government, misuse of federal funds,
- and the class-system (based on power, money, and influence), which
- maintains instability and chaos in, what is supposed to be, a well-
- balanced 'democratic'/non-dictorial system. And many argue that
- a capitalism structure does not promote equality because of its
- ideology, and that is self-interest, power, and categorization of
- people - under a very white male dominated society with little
- tolerance for anything below its 'standards'.
-
- >To add even more inertia into the system, we have constitutions that
- >were written by leaders in the past at a time when supposedly
- >(hopefully) the leaders weren't insane. Since it is difficult to
- >change the constitution, and most people have some reverence for it,
- >some basic governmental ideas move even slower than everything else.
-
- Are you kidding? Don't you think the country was instable and just
- a little insane during that period of time? What, with the civil war
- for automony and a break from Mother England? Perhaps is was not as
- complex as it is today - so as to detail the laws and rights of
- Americans, which would be suitable and applicable for everyone.
-
- >Also, one problem with dictatorship is that even though a utopian
- >benevolent dictator would be very good, in general only the worst
- >of our society would want to be dictator. In a democracy, you tend
- >to have a mediocre government, which is much better than a nutcase
- >dictator, though not as good as the ideal.
-
- Don't forget that most, if not all, of these "nutcase dictators"
- were installed, maintained, and supported financially by the governments
- of the West. This isn't a conspiracy theory. Just look at the case of
- Iraq (again) while the Khomeini regime was in power: the U.S. and its
- puppet regimes in the Gulf bankrolled Saddam Hussein to wage a war on
- Iran and to cripple it economically and so that it would be vulnerable.
- The U.S. knows that Saddam Hussein used the most extreme measures against
- the Kurdish populations in Iraq prior to the Iran-Iraq war, but that was
- not an issue at all - even after the Gulf War (which, again, the public
- discovered that the U.S. was supplying Iraq militarily up to the invasion
- of Kuwait), when Bush told the Kurds he could not help them. And Saddam,
- despite his raping and pillaging another country, is still with us today -
- regardless of Bush's promises to take him to world court or abolish his
- Hitler-like rule.
-
- And then you have to keep in mind the double standards and hypocrisy
- of the democratic governments who want to 'spread democracy' to unenlightened
- countries. Well, look at what happened in Algeria. Look at what happened
- in Bosnia. When political stakes are at hand, intervention in the name of
- democracy (western standards of), make a country's future extremely vital.
-
- Anisa
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