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- From: raz@socs.uts.edu.au (The Inimitable Raz)
- Subject: Re: Gradient
- Message-ID: <raz.722139150@syzygy>
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- Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
- References: <1dhgspINNrag@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> <1992Nov8.060709.26106@lds-az.loral.com> <GISLE.92Nov8161338@gyda.ifi.uio.no> <1992Nov10.073337.12595@lds-az.loral.com>
- Date: 19 Nov 92 02:12:30 GMT
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- jerry@lds-az.loral.com (J Barbera) writes:
-
- >In article <GISLE.92Nov8161338@gyda.ifi.uio.no> gisle@ifi.uio.no (Gisle Hannemyr) writes:
- >>In article <1992Nov8.060709.26106@lds-az.loral.com> jerry@lds-az.loral.com (J Barbera) writes:
- >>
- >>excuse yourself from answering by stating that it would be
- >>"out-gradient" to continue the discussion. I guess you can use
-
- >Or maybe I could be honest and say something would be out-gradient when it
- >really would be out-gradient?
- Why not do both? What's to stop you from telling us that the answer
- to the question is (IN YOUR OPINION) out-gradient for "us" or other
- readers, but answer anyway?
-
-
- >>Thinking about the implications, it struck me that this is really an
- >those for you. But THAT'D be out-gradient for many people reading the
- >newsgroup. So, what should I do? Confuse people with data without the
- >appropriate background data?
-
- Why is it that EVERY time a non-scientologist starts attempting
- to analyse something that has been put forward and starts asking
- what may be described as searching questions (read: trying to
- understand) you guys (scientologists) respond "that;s out-gradient"
- or "go and read book x - it'll explain" or begin constructing a
- line of argument and, after arguing it for a week or so claim that
- it is your personal opinion and not neccessarily representative
- of scientological veiws, thus relieving any burden oproving or
- even backing up your veiws (sp?).
-
- If someone asks a question, it usually means that they haven't
- understood a comment, concept or word and are TRYING to understand.
- This appears to me to be one of the holy precepts for scientological
- and dianetical??) learning!
-
- Instead of answering in one of the above modes, why not give ALL
- information at your disposal in your reply. Maybe some of us will
- begin to understand rather than having our obstructionist veiw (sp?)
- of scientology reinforced? Further, make certain that you know when
- you START discussing something whether you are discussing church
- veiws or your own and if they are in fact your own, clearly mark
- them "IMHO".
-
- I'll stop raving now.
-
-
- --
- Bye for now.
- - Raz
-
- raz@socs.uts.edu.au (Roland Turner) (OH) 61 2 319 5700
-