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- From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
- Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
- Subject: Re: What's your tattle level?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.215215.19193@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>
- Date: 17 Nov 92 21:52:15 GMT
- References: <1992Nov17.140342.14563@anasazi.com>
- Distribution: usa
- Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
- Lines: 75
-
- john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore) writes:
- : >:
- : >: ]Large drug buy/sell - Y
- : >: ]Huge drug buy/sell - Y
- : >: ]Child taken by non-custodial parent - N
- : >
- : >So, how do the first two violate individual rights, theft or violence?
-
- : It's simple. In today's drug prohibition world (which, by the way, I
- : disagree with), a neighbor involved in a large drug buy/sell is involved
- : in organized crime, and probably violent. I don't want such a neighbor.
- : It has nothing to do with the moral rightness of prohibitting such drugs.
-
- Probably/possibly? You want to get rid of any neighbors who "might" be
- violent?
-
- : >Why does the third not violate individual rights - such as the rights
- : >of the child or the custodial parent?
- :
- : It would be very hard to determine that from a scanner. That's why I
- : wouldn't call it in.
-
- Are you going to answer this?
-
- : >: - - Support ALL of the bill of rights, INCLUDING the 2nd amendment! - -
- : >
- : >Don't be a hypocrite, John.
- : >
- : >Support ALL the bill of rights, including the right to be secure in your
- : >life and property - unless removed by due course of law. Fight civil
- : >forfeiture - which violates this right. Support the right to use drugs
- : >and to have an abortion.
- :
- : Get a clue. You have decided I am a hypocrit after asking why I
- : would call certain things in, but without waiting for my answer. Very
- : presumptuous of you, I would say. Do you think I am in favor of
- : civil forfeiture? How could you from my post? I do not believe that
- : the right to use drugs is in the constitution but I do believe it is
- : a natural right. I don't hold that there is an inalieable right to
- : have an abortion because I am willing to at least consider the possibility
- : that a fetus might also have rights!
-
- No, I warned that if you don't support all the Bill of Rights, you are
- a hypocrite by supporting only part of it. Supporting any law that removes
- the right of a person to control their own bodies and actions is not
- supporting the BOR. Unfortunately, in this country, about the only way
- for the general population to get rid of a law with which they don't agree
- is to ignore it enmasse.
-
- : I really resent how you take a simple statement of mine and decide that
- : you know the logic behind it and that therefore I am a hypocrit.
-
- I did not say you were - I was just pointing out that it was possible.
-
- : With an attitude like yours, I would be afraid to have you scanning my calls,
- : because you would hear something innocent, assume something bad, and do
- : something about it. Get a life!
-
- Nope - I don't have a scanner which covers the cellular frequencies, nor am
- I interested in getting one. All I listen to are the aircraft frequencies.
-
- : ]Most of all, work towards requiring people to take responsibility for
- : ]their own actions, instead of the government deciding what is morally
- : ]right or wrong for you. Support the right of people to decide how they
- : ]run their own lives, as long as they do not endanger others in the
- : ]process.
- :
- : What the hell did you think I said up there, Bill?
-
- It certainly did not seem like it, from your post. Turning in a person
- because they are planning to purchase X quantity of a currently illegal
- drug is not allowing them to run their own lives. If I misunderstood,
- then you have my apologies.
-
- Bill
-