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- From: gregs@hotcity.COM (Greg Stramback)
- Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
- Subject: Re: Best of Transmissions......
- Message-ID: <gregs.1yfa@hotcity.COM>
- Date: 15 Nov 92 20:17:51 GMT
- References: <1992Nov11.144918.16851@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
- Organization: BBS
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- In article <1992Nov11.144918.16851@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, whs70@dancer.uucp
- (22501-sohl) writes:
- >In article <1eP2TB1w164w@n5abi.hou.tx.us> gak@n5abi.hou.tx.us (Gene A.
- Kennedy)
- >writes:
- >>ron@zooid.guild.org (Secret Mud) writes:
- >>> They are coming up with better technology--and I can't wait to hear the
- >>> whining when cellular goes digital. (Followed by heavy business in
- >>> descramblers, and the justification "they should have used a GOOD algorithm
- i
- >
- >>> they'd wanted privacy...")
- >>
- >> The technology is "on the shelf" today, no imporvement needed.
- >>Just ask those who have tried to "break" the DES systems used by
- >>government agencies (like the FBI). The problem with this law is
- >>that it makes some older TVs, a lot of test equipment, and many
- >>scanners now in service technically illegal to use all because the
- >>cellular companies don't want to pay for secure technology but
- >>still want to "claim" security to their customers that isn't
- >>there. If a cellular company went totally encrypted tomorrow, few
- >>of the scanner owners would care, there is more than just cellular
- >>in those ranges.
- >
- >Minor correction here. The new scanner manufacturing/importation
- >ban does not make the ownership or use of any existing radio
- >receiving equipment (current scanners with cellular, old TVs,
- >test equipment, etc.) illegal, even on a purely "technical"
- >basis. The bottom line of the new law is that it prohibits
- >the manufacturing and/or importation (after 1 year of enactment
- >of the law) of a scanner that includes coverage of the cellular
- >frequency band.
- >
- >The existing ECPA law (not the new manufacturing ban law) has for
- >several years made it illegal to deliberately listen to cellular.
- >
- >Please don't misread this post as my being in favor of the new
- >law. I DID write my congressman and senators to request they
- >oppose it.
- >
- >So, bottom line here is that the new law in no way affects your
- >ownership of a scanner with cellular coverage, the scanner is
- >completely legal AND, you can sell it at any time and you will
- >NOT be breaking any law (to the best of my knowledge.)
- >
- >Standard Disclaimer- Any opinions, etc. are mine and NOT my employer's.
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-
- well, out here in California, there is quite a bit of usage in the cellular
- ranges that are supposed to be "blocked" by businesses and city / county /
- state government agencies. i still think it's ridiculous that we should have
- to put up with devices that discontinue coverage in these areas, when most of
- us (including me) could care less about what some yuppie with a cel phone is
- talking about to his yuppie wife. even by blocking out the cellular bands,
- most of the lower price range scanners with the 800-900 coverage allow you to
- hear most of the calls anyway because of quirks in the IF circuitry, which
- usually makes nice image frequencies of the cellular calls. They're basically
- wasting their time trying to get this crap passed, and as far as i'm concerned,
- they still lose since the modifications are so easy to do to most radios and
- also because of the IF / intermod problems. oh well, the next generation of
- cel phones is supposed to be all digital anyway, so in a few years it won't
- matter.
-