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- From: ingraham@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (James Ingraham)
- Newsgroups: alt.politics.libertarian
- Subject: Re: NPR, Marrou and the U.S. Constitution
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- Date: 18 Nov 92 22:04:29 GMT
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- In article <XxF=FK_@engin.umich.edu> positron@engin.umich.edu (Jonathan Scott Haas) writes:
- >>In article <10577@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM> mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes:
- >>>Just because we as citizens have a duty to obey the laws that are passed, it
- >>>does not follow that therefore the government has the right to pass any law
- >>>that it wants.
-
- [My own stuff deleted]
-
- >
- >But is it true, though? Do we not have a duty to disobey unjust laws?
- >
-
- The point of the quote is that the government does not have the right to
- pass unjust laws in the first place, so we CERTAINLY have a right (I'm not
- sure about duty; just because I think it's unfair that people under 18
- can't drink doesn't mean that I have a *duty* to go against all of my
- beliefs about the problems of alcohol and my decision not to use it!) to
- disobey any unjudt alw. That's what this whole things about; follow the
- good laws and don't have any bad ones and you follow ALL laws. And
- (according to libertarians) you have a better world for it. (Unless some
- libertarian would like to correct me and say they shouldn't even follow
- good laws, but I don't think that's a standard libertarian standpoint).
-
- >--
- >__/\__ Jonathan S. Haas | Jake liked his women the way he liked
- >\ / University of Michigan | his kiwi fruit: sweet yet tart, firm-
- >/_ _\ positron@engin.umich.edu | fleshed yet yielding to the touch, and
- > \/ | covered with short brown fuzzy hair.
-
- -James
- University of Pennsylvania
- ingrahameniac.seas.upenn.edu
-
- P.S. In reference to someone's statement that Socrates felt unjust laws
- should be followed should re-read _Crito_ a little more carefully; he simply
- felt that he had plenty of time in the past to make the decision whether or
- not the laws of Athens were just, obviously decided that they were and that
- he would abide by them, and went to his death believing no injustice had
- occured.
-