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- Subject: Re: Scummy behavior of pagan males
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- From: haley@husc11.harvard.edu (Elizabeth Haley)
- Date: 19 Nov 92 09:35:20 GMT
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- I think that some of the points of the previous articles should be
- taken seriously, since I have seen the behavior of some people at
- gatherings that I would describe as "scummy".
-
- Not to mention a great deal that is just plain stupid.
-
- But it stands to reason that anything that involves people opening up
- physically as well as emotionally and mentally, is going to draw
- people who want to reap the shallower benefits...
-
- Want to get high? Hang out with Pagans.
- Want to see naked girls/guys a lot? Hangout with Pagans.
- Want to hang out by a fire, and get drunk and make a lot of noise?
- Hang out with Pagans.
- All ya gotta do is wear a pentacle and maybe learn a little bit about
- Tarot cards...
-
- Yeck!
-
- I am a pretty normal man. When I went to my first Gathering, some of
- the women went skyclad. I found it arousing.
-
- I guess it was my upbringing that allowed me the decorum to keep my
- hands on the drum I was playing, and my tongue in my mouth...
-
- After a while though, the sight of a tit bared to the elements frankly
- barely registered, unless it was too red from sunburn, or too dry from
- dehydration... (Ever seen someone dance for an hour around a roaring
- bonfire and come away dry? They are usually dry for about 30 Seconds,
- if they are properly hydrated, then they are soaked...)
-
- The plain fact is, if you want to have the leers, the come ons, and
- the problems stop, you must remove the temptation.
-
- Don't go Skyclad, unless you know everyone there.
- Don't offer any sacraments or recreational substances, unless you know
- the person you are offering it to, or someone your trust and whose
- judgement you trust can vouch for them.
-
- Big DON'T's: Don't practive sex magick in less than secure areas...
- Ya never know when some bozo might pop into a circle and decide to
- join the "orgy" (Orgy?)
-
- Maybe this is a bit extreme a warning, but, well, I have met some real
- assholes who asked me about Pagan gatherings... It makes me shudder,
- sometimes, to think that I share genetic traits with some of them...
- (I usually tell them that they will be approached when it "right",
- which generally means never...)
-
- I realize it is a real pisser to have to curtail ones own freedom in a
- place you specifically went to experience greater freedom.
- (It certainly pisses me off...)
- But it's either that or start your own gathering and avoid the large
- ones...
-
- BTW Anyone know of gatherings taking place near Boston in the early
- part of the year? DON'T TELL ME. I will be approached, when it is
- left.
-
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