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- From: markbr%radian@natinst.com (markbr)
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- Subject: Re: guns (was the US elections...)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov17.232614.1889@radian.uucp>
- Date: 17 Nov 92 23:26:14 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov15.115410.14348@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
- >altheimm@nextnet.csus.edu (Murray Altheim) writes:
- >:
- >: >They are to PROTECT us FROM the government.
- >:
- >: I agree that it was written with the intent to allow a civilian population
- >: to arm against a tyranny, but we've long since passed the point where this
- >: is possible.
- >
- >Hardly true. Witness what the very poorly equipt people in Afghanistan are
- >doing in their war against the USSR. They have been fighting for over 10
- >years, and they still have not been subjugated.
- >
- Time for a bowl of Reality Chex, guy. The U.S. has been more or less openly
- supplying them with weapons almost all that time. They are not exactly poorly
- equipped. In fact, most of the revolutions you mentioned in the earlier post
- were being supplied by one of the superpowers or another, as well as a nearby
- nation *outside* the one in the civil war.
-
- >: Well, you're pretty misled if you think you or any number of your friends
- >: can take on the US government in a gunfight. First you'll battle ALL the
- >: local police, then the county, then the state police, then the National
- >: Guard, then the US army, the Marines, the CIA, the FBI and the NSC. I'm
- >: probably leaving out a few. Maybe that's your preferred method of dying,
- >: but I doubt many people (especially with families) would agree with you.
- >
- >See above. If it came to an insurrection - I expect most of the police, as
- >well as the national guard, would be on the side of the citizens.
-
- Nope. I doubt *very* much that the National Guard would revolt. Whatever
- group was revolting (I am, of course, considering any possible revolutionary
- group within this country that might have *some* potential to mount a serious
- revolt) would be portrayed as treasonous, etc, and would be considered so
- by the armed & uniformed forces. You don't think so? Look at how we were
- treated in the 60's, those of us against the War. And *most* of us were
- non-violent, or started that way.
-
- >: IMHO, the only reasons for owning a gun in the United States are for home
- >: and personal protection, target and sport shooting, and hunting. Anyone
- >: who thinks they can stand up to the might of the entire US police and
- >: military establishment is delusionary.
- >
- That, I agree with.
-
- mark
-