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- From: ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring)
- Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
- Subject: Re: bad religion
- Message-ID: <1992Nov15.175644.4351@coli.uni-sb.de>
- Date: 15 Nov 92 17:56:44 GMT
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- tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY) writes:
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- >Actually, this is always good for an argument or flame war (but I am not
- >trying to start one!) First off I'll say that I do indeed hate the
- >Sex Pistols, but that has no bearing on my reasoning for my next statement.
- >The Sex Pistols probably didn't start punk rock. That may not be what you are
-
- They were right there with it. Granted the Ramones and the Troggs were earlier.
- Just as Philipp of Macedonia was before Alexander the Great.
- D
- >implying but it's just something I gotta say. I think it would be good if this
- >group would discuss this in a nice fashionable way other than indiscriminant
- >flaming. But here are my opinions. If you want to say where punk began, it
-
- No flames from me, just truth :-)
-
- >might pay off to look as far back as the late sixties. Iggy and the Stooges
- >definitely showed a lot of "punk attitude" and bands like MC5 should be
- >given a nod as well. But then again, every form of music has it's roots
- >which may not necessarily be considered that form of music. But I think it
- >was the Ramones who first coined the phrase "punk rock". I could be wrong
- >but this is what I have heard. That's just my input on the subject. If anyone
- >has any other ideas, please post them, but lets not flame the hell out of
- >everybody. Oh, and Ulrich, just so I don't totally disregard your main point
- >here, yeah Glen did get kicked out because of some other people's egos
- >which sucks, but I thought the Pistols were just a big scam anyway. I thouhgt
- >they were put together to kind of be England's answer to the New York Dolls.
- >I guess that may not be entirely correct either, but if I'm full of shit,
- >somebody should post the truth.
-
- Well but that certainly is not true IMHO. The New York Scene was completely
- overrated and more like New Wave. Anyways, the Pistols were - you're right
- on this one - put together for commercial reasons.
- >
- >>Punks are not better than other human beings, to expect anything else would
- >>be indeed gloryfying it. Anyways, we both like the music and that's worth
- >>something, too.
-
- >Yeah, that's true. Point well taken.
-
- >> Ulrich Mayring
-
- >TOMASS
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- Ulrich Mayring
-
- - Also wir waren mit grau eigentlich sehr zufrieden -
-