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- From: thom@cs.mun.ca (Thomas Clancy)
- Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
- Subject: Re: TALK
- Message-ID: <1992Nov23.155250.19296@cs.mun.ca>
- Date: 23 Nov 92 15:52:50 GMT
- References: <MAPPLER.92Nov15201937@titan.ucc.umass.edu> <1992Nov16.015830.24696@cs.uwp.edu> <MAPPLER.92Nov15211149@titan.ucc.umass.edu> <B3r0s*4y4@aquarium.Buffalo.NY.US>
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- ernie@aquarium.Buffalo.NY.US (Ernest J. Gainey III) writes:
-
- >In article <MAPPLER.92Nov15211149@titan.ucc.umass.edu>, Matthew A Appler writes:
-
- >> Well, for some there is no option, as telnet is the only way to enter
- >> some accounts. What is the reasoning behind losing ones account for
- >> allowing someone else access? The gain access only to your accuont,
- >> and you are responsible for waht occurs with your account. I'm not
- >> flaming, >I'm just curious about the reasoning behind this.
- >>
-
- >The reasoning? Well... 1st, you don't belong on the remote system ;-)
-
- >Lets see... Technically, logging into another computer and using someone
- >elses account is theft of services... if you don't have an account yourself
- >on that system, your not authorized to be there.. and therefore are
- >'stealing'... and if they wanted to be jerks, could try to sue you
- >or even put you in jail... [note: this is from personal experience *frown*]
-
- Hmm... I fail to see how it is "theft". Take for example, someone buys
- a season pass to a swimming pool, Somedays, the person doesn't wish to
- go so he lends it to a friend. Now, the "pass" has been paid for and
- it entitles one to unlimited [or even limited] access, which means he
- can take up "one" spot at any given time [paid for]. What is wrong with
- him sending someone in his place? [a proxy perhaps?]. Now I can hear you
- screaming "But he didn't PAY for the account", I don't know his particular
- situation, but many DO pay in SOME form or other... Whether it be an
- outrageous university tuition fee or something else. Of course, here it
- is possible to have multiple persons logged in under the one account,
- at the SAME time - some would say this is not fair... BUT, what about the
- people who log in and jump from machine to machine running a backround
- task or two. They would take up as much time/effort/resources/money/etc
- as multiple people logged into the one account. 8-) [I am not exactly
- sure on the process, just trying to make logical deductions here - perhaps
- more modems {if calling from remote} or "physical" terminals would be
- taken up - but overall they shoukld be the same no?]
-
- At any rate, no matter how unfair or illogical it may seem, the person
- shouldn't do it. Why?, simply because it *IS* prohibited. There are
- rules and reg's [some vague and unwritten, some that are even
- constructed "on the fly" ;-) ] for everything, and if you want to use
- something belonged to someone else, regardless if you are paying
- "rent" or not, you still have to follow their rules [landlords lease]
- or lose all priviliges associated with said machine, apartment, car, etc;
-
- Thomas
-
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- >Why is it that, as a culture, \/ | egaineyi@nyx.cs.du.edu
- >We are more comfortable seeing two +-----------------------------------------
- >Men holding guns than holding hands?|Amiga The Creative Choice! ;-)
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