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- From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
- Newsgroups: alt.guitar
- Subject: Re: Built your own amp?
- Message-ID: <By0F1H.8E1@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>
- Date: 20 Nov 92 10:12:52 GMT
- References: <Bxxwpv.w1@cmptrc.lonestar.org>
- Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.
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- neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:
-
- >In article <TOM.92Nov17210326@bailey.cpac.washington.edu> tom@cpac.washington.edu (Tom May) writes:
- >>In article <12NOV92.19291772.0050@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> META000 <META@UNB.CA> writes:
- >>My Marshall has 6550 power tubes. Does anybody know what the difference is
- >>between these guys and 6L6 and/or EL34 tubes? I'd never even heard of
- >>6550s until I got the amp a couple years ago, and I've never seen them
- >>mentioned in this newsgroup.
-
- >Most Marshalls made from the mid 1970's to recently came equipped with
- >6550's. 6L6's and 6550's are both classified as "beam power" tubes which
- >have a specially shaped plate electrode and a "beam directing" electrode
- >(in lieu of a 3rd grid) which focuses the electron beam onto 2 extra heavy
- >areas of the plate. The 6550 and 6L6 have almost the same pinout but the
- >6550 can handle a little higher current (i.e. higher power rated) than a
- >6L6 and likes to have a little less 1st grid bias than the 6L6 in typical
- >guitar amps (i.e approx -40 to -50 volts for 6550's and approx -50 to -60
- >volts for 6L6's). The EL-34 is a "power pentode" which has a true 3rd grid
- >and a more conventional plate. It likes lower 1st grid bias also (-35 to -45v).
- >The "desireable overdrive" characteristics of these three tubes in order
- >of most-to-least (this is my opinion only, no flames please) is
- >EL-34 followed by 6550 and lastly 6L6 (cleanest sounding of the three).
-
- The EL34 is a beam pentode. Originally Marshalls came equipped with Mullard
- versions. When they were shipped to the US some bright spark had the idea of
- pulling the EL34s and replaceing them with 6550, also a beam pentode. 6550
- give a little extra power but with a slightly harder edge. The reason for the
- change was one of reliability however, initially they didn't rebias for the
- 6550 giving early imported Marshalls a *bad* sound. It was rectified later.
- Marshall eventually got round to fitting 6550 at the factory for the US market
- but apparently Jim Marshall didn't like the sound much. Current Marshalls are
- now fitted with EL34s again, probably of Czechoslovakian or Chinese manufacture.
-
- The purpose of 'beaming' is to improve the low level linearity of a multi-grid
- valve. Most pentodes do it.
- It's fairly common practise in the US to connect the extra screen grid
- internally to the cathode whereas in the UK all the grids are brought out to
- the pins and the cathode connection made externally. That's the only reason
- an EL 34 appears to have a true screen grid, a 6550 has one too, it's just
- connected to the cathode inside the valve to save you the trouble.
-
- Maybe your thinking about a tetrode like the KT88.
- .
-
- >EL-34/6CA7's. The American made GE and Sylvania 6CA7/EL-34's were beam
- >power tubes and not power pentodes.
-
- I don't know about the US firms but I'm sure Mullard would be extremely
- surprised to discover that their EL34 wasn't a pentode.
-
- Technically it was a beam power pentode.
- You can't always work it out by counting pins.
-
- Dave
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