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- From: mlm@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael McCool)
- Subject: Re: Advanced Strategy vs Guile and Ken/Ryu
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- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:30:31 GMT
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- Seth James Killian (skillian@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
- : dphantom@triton.unm.edu (darlene an 92sep02 lawry) writes:
- : >And you know what's REALLY annoying? When about 5 of them (mostly
- : >expert players) do it between all the good machines (so that you can't
- : >just play on another machine if you don't feel it's fair). And then,
- : >you win a round (there's always at least a couple of them you can beat)...
- : >and they see this and switch off with someone else that they know CAN
- : >beat you so that they can continue to monopolize the games.
- :
- : Sounds to me like your basic case of "Sore-Pops-itis". I'm a
- : grumpy old man and I can't win at Streetfighter. Cry me a river.
- : Boo Hoo. These kids today have no respect. So they can't fight
- : their own battles? Well it sounds like they fought their own battle
- : well enough not only to beat you the first round but with enough
- : confidence to pass it on to their buddies! They suffer the same
- : "disadvantage" as you do by "not being used to whoever they might
- : be playing at the moment". The only unfairness I can see here is
- : you not being fair to yourself by admitting that maybe these guys
- : are just a lot better than you are. You'll just have to deal with
- : it and grow up. Sometimes I'll just move the joystick and let my
- : friends hit the buttons! Ha Ha! If I come up against a real loser
- : I occasionaly play using only one hand! If this may sound
- : "disrespectful" -- tough! In SF2 you get respect by earning it on
- : the machine, I owe you nothing. Bottom line - If you aren't good
- : enough to win (by whatever means at your disposal) then you lose.
- : I can't think of anything so simple that quite so many people have
- : a problem understanding. You don't like it? Improve and win.
- : Otherwise, please don't whine... Whining is the mark of the true
- : loser.
- :
- : Seth Killian
-
- Well, I'll play the flamebait and respond to this obviously inflammatory
- note.
-
- You know, Mr. Killian, not everyone is so completely out for blood that they
- feel the need to be as good as you quite obviously are. (No, I don't think
- we've played, don't even bother asking.)
-
- The fact of the matter is, not everyone goes to play Street Fighter to
- dominate. There are quite a few of us weird minority for whom SF2 is a
- hobby, and no more. Not everyone has the quarters, time, or natural talent
- as you to sit and practice enough to get that good. On my own level, I go
- when I need to relieve some stress and pick the prime hours at which no one
- is at the arcade so I can just sit and beat the holy hell out of the
- computer.
-
- What I believe people are complaining about is the attitude which is taken
- by persons such as you have portrayed in this article, and usually by others
- who switch off between themselves when they're playing. I don't care if
- you're better than I am. That simply doesn't matter to me. I'll go play
- another machine, an option which not everyone has. What does matter is
- getting my nose ground into it. There's really no reason to do so; your
- game makes it quite clear that you are the superior player. You say that
- people should practice and get better yet you obviously make no attempt to
- help along that path.
-
- Since this is turning into quite the long speech, I'll insert an amusing
- anecdote like they taught in English so long ago.
-
- The "best" player I ever played at SF2 was a hawaiian guy at my home arcade
- I only saw once. He was really good, but given my perspective was skewed
- by the fact that I sucked. I used Honda and never used the kicks (they
- seemed so unnatural for a Sumo wrestler) and he was using Guile, I think.
- Anyway, after I won the first round he says "Okay, well, it's learning time."
- So he pulls out Honda and cleans by boat like never before seen. BUT, he
- toned down his playing and showed me some cool stuff to do, the most notable
- being "Would you use your feet, for crying out loud?" Finally I got good
- enough (after many quarters, on both our parts) that he pulled out Bison,
- saying, "Well, sorry, man, I feel like some computer action" and made me
- look the fool.
-
- The point being, he did not rub my nose in it, except in a friendly way, he
- wasn't afraid to spend some money himself, and he was good-natured about it.
- If I wanted someone to be rude to me I'd just go to the post office. And
- his way of playing me was a lot more entertaining and productive on my part
- than two jerkoffs giving each other five while the animations were running
- and grinding me into the ground, because it's also true that when two guys
- are switching off, they're much more likely to be really loud about it. I've
- beaten my fair share of people, but never have I been intentionally rude
- about it.
-
- So, as they also said in speech class, I'll end with a summary. Not everyone
- has the money to be a master, not everyone has the desire to be a master, and
- sometimes people just want to go to have some fun, and I think you'd do well
- to remember that instead of assuming everyone is a Mortal Kombat freak if
- they suck at Street Fighter.
-
- Thanks for reading. Flame as you see fit.
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