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- From: skillian@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Seth James Killian)
- Subject: Re: Bison topic renewed
- References: <1992Nov15.225454.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> <BxvDA4.Esv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
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- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:58:44 GMT
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- bodom@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Odom) writes:
-
- >In <1992Nov15.225454.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> jmangold@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
-
- >> I realize that what I'm going to ask has been a main topic on this
- >>conference before, but I'm fairly new so I'll ask again:
-
- >> Why is Bison cheesy?
-
- >> I know that there are players of little skill out there who simply
- >>cheesepedo back and forth across the screen, but is this the only reason why?
- >>As a former Bison player, I've heard cries of cheapness before, and I make it a
- >>rule to NEVER torpedo (unless I'm cornered). I even respected when my opponent
- >>had so little life that I refused to do this manuever. After a while, some
- >>liked my style of play and actually wanted to play me as Bison, while others
- >>walked off mumbling "It just isn't fun anymore..."
-
- >You just answered your own question there. YOU make it a rule NEVER to torpedo
- >(unless you're cornered). But what about others?
-
- >Especially for a beginner, this move is the hardest to counter and it can be
- >very devastating. What also makes Bison cheap is the combination of his
- >torpedo with his throwing range. Torp, throw, ad infinitum... is a VERY
- >difficult one for a beginner to counter. A master player can counter it with
- >much better efficiency. While most players tend to be mediocre or beginner
- >players, you hear the cries of foul or cheap. It takes off way too much
- >damage when blocked.
-
- >> I also have a question about playing other Bison players: Is there a
- >>way to consistently throw Bison after blocking his torpedo? I seem to do it on
- >>and off, and there are times when he seems to beat me to it (and EXTREMELY
- >>CHEESEY combo). Is there any priority involved?
-
- >Again you just answered your own question (hence, the cheesepedo). Block a
- >torpedo for about 5 clicks and then he throws you. Well, if you can't counter
- >it, that's just tough. I usually can throw him after a blocked torpedo, but
- >I can do it only about 60-70% because I feel that his throwing range is pretty
- >large. Nowadays, I see the head stomp, throw combo. This is really tough
- >because your character is turned the wrong way, and you can't counter throw.
-
- Just to toss in my two cents, I too have seen the advent of the
- headstomp-throw/headstomp-combo maneuever, but I no longer share
- your fear. No matter where Bison lands, you should be able to toss
- him immediately. You do not need to be facing him to throw him.
- The timing involved is slightly different from your average sac-type
- throw but I learned the technique through practise from throwing
- Ken/Ryu players who are a little too fond of the "jump over your
- head and neck kick". If they are a little off and jump over your
- head without connecting at all, they are yours to throw. Try it
- and see. Well, the same goes for Bison. If he simply tries to
- land and throw, you always have priority, it's just a matter of the
- correct timing. Good luck.
-
- >--
- >Brian T Odom
-
- >"We are all manufacturers -- some make good, others make trouble, and still
- >others make excuses."
-