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- Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.sys.cbm,soc.culture.nordic,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.french
- Path: sparky!uunet!think.com!paperboy.osf.org!dbrooks
- From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
- Subject: 8-bit news (was Re: Commodore keyboard layout.)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov21.144553.22647@osf.org>
- Sender: news@osf.org (USENET News System)
- Reply-To: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
- Organization: Open Software Foundation
- References: <1992Nov19.112057.2311W@viper.edb.tih.no> <ERU.92Nov20153352@tnso04.tele.nokia.fi> <By1pHw.G3L@NeoSoft.com>
- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:45:53 GMT
- Lines: 48
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- In alt.folklore.computers and comp.sys.cbm, edwardp@ra.cs.umb.edu (Edward P. Piecewicz) writes:
- > úúúúúúúúú
-
- eru@tnso04.tele.nokia.fi (Erkki Ruohtula) writes:
- >>#########
-
- But Peter da Silva claims Erkki writes:
- >>úúúúúúúúú
-
- I got the sterling signs from Edward and Peter, but by the time Erkki's
- article got to me (via a fairly tortuous path) they had been mutated into
- hash marks. Incidentally, talking about this is not helped by the American
- habit of referring to hash marks as pound signs.
-
- I have noticed more and more 8-bit characters successfully showing up in
- postings, and would like to encourage the habit as much as possible, if
- only to shame the software that strips the top bit into being fixed.
-
- Consider this a call for action! Peter's and my current sigs are test
- cases...
-
- It seems that:
-
- a) many News gateways are now 8-bit clean -- possibly because Cnews is
- pretty much standard?
- b) Many folks who use X are now on X11R5, where ISO8859-1 fonts are
- standard, and both xrn and xterm, by default, are 8-bit clean.
- c) Mail transmission generally loses the top bit.
- d) Most of us don't have ISO8859-1 keyboards; many keyboards that are i15d
- are engraved according to another standard. Personally, I use trial and
- error until the right character shows up.
-
- Briefly checking some newsgroups I don't generally read, it seems that
- soc.culture.nordic has a few postings that survive and some that dont, but
- many others that use the older ISO-646 option of co-opting {|} on 7-bit
- terminals. Folks in soc.culture.german seem to still rely on devices like
- \"u and u". soc.culture.french writers seem to drop the diacritics
- altogether.
-
- Hasn't this been addressed in the culture groups?
-
- peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
- >Sure, why not?
- --
- David Brooks dbrooks@osf.org
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- Allⁿberall und ewig blauen licht die Fernen! Ewig... ewig... ewig...
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