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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: heterosexuality and feminism
- Message-ID: <1992Nov24.011218.21419@netcom.com>
- Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
- References: <1992Nov22.010044.362@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> <1992Nov22.154833.11649@netcom.com> <1992Nov22.202001.25245@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu>
- Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:12:18 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov22.202001.25245@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> mkagalen@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (michael kagalenko) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov22.154833.11649@netcom.com> payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
- >>In article <1992Nov22.010044.362@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> mkagalen@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (michael kagalenko) writes:
- >>>So no one is write & no one is wrong ? Say, beliefs of Hitler (in "Mein
- >>>Kampf", for ex.) and Albert Shweitzer ( "Letters from the Lambarene" for ex.)
- >>>should be treated as equally respectful ? (I'm simplifing, but it was you
- >>>who started simplifications)
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- >>I think it makes sense if you read that -other people's beliefs are
- >>personally valid-.
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- >If I read that I get 0 bit of information. The above phrase is
- >sheer tavtology:
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- Yes it is tautological, so what? This does not imply zero information.
- Mathematics is tautological, this has not been a problem so far.
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- > - What are beliefs ? - something personally valid;
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- You confuse a statement of scope for a definition.
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- > - How'd you call "personally valid" ideas - beliefs, surely ! ;-)
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- And next you assume a different relationship completely. Can you figure
- out the difference?
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- >> What you believe is real for you. But not necessarily
- >>for any other person.
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- >There're some things which are real for everyone whether he/she
- >believes in them or not.
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- This is where the "not neccessarily" must be read for meaning. It is not
- the same as "not".
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- >>I believe the problem here is literary.
- >Yes, really ? 8-)
- >Nothing-nothing else ?
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- Originally, no.
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- Rich
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- payner@netcom.com
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