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- From: mec6@quads.uchicago.edu (rini)
- Subject: Sexist and 50/50 (Was: Elle MacPherson causes rape?)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov20.233240.17541@midway.uchicago.edu>
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- Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
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- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:32:40 GMT
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- payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
- >mec6@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
-
- [much deletia as Rich drifts off somewhere else...]
-
- >>If I say the proponderance of male CEO's is a sign of sexism,
- >
- >Ah yes, sexism determinism by body count. An institution that will no doubt
- >be with us for years to come.
- >
- >> would not the appearance of an equal number of female
- >>CEO's be a sure indicator that sexism is gone?
- >
- >Only if you can determine the presence or absence of sexism by such a
- >measure. The problem is that the body count metric is inherently sexist,
- >and it is not a given that even with no sexism, that 50/50 male/female
- >ratios would result.
-
- Why is the body count metric "inherently sexist"?
-
- To the point, are there situations you can think of that exist today
- where men and women participate in something equally and where the very
- fact of 50/50 participation is evidence of sexism? (For clarity, let's set
- aside the whole idea of "forced quotas" etc.) I must admit that I'm
- having a hard time coming up with examples to prove your point.
-
- >> If I point to the
- >>proponderance of female nurses and say it's a sexist world, would not
- >>an equal number of male nurses indicate that sexism is gone?
- >
- >No.
-
- Why?
-
- Is the answer to this at all related to your idea that an equal
- reprentation of scantily clothed males and females in media would imply
- double-the-sexism?
-
- What would a totally non-sexist USA look like to you Rich?
-
- rini
-