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- From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
- Subject: Re: sex in the good ol' days
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- References: <1992Nov16.172842.16463@netcom.com> <1992Nov16.202344.25055@midway.uchicago.edu> <1992Nov17.054314.4673@netcom.com>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:13:47 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov17.054314.4673@netcom.com> barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov16.202344.25055@midway.uchicago.edu> mec6@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
- >>Maybe Kayembee will post some quotes from the
- >>material he has? We could compare it then. Will he be so generous?
-
- > Hmm, two requests for this, one by email, one on the net - I
- >call that popular demand! Anyway, this is fun stuff, in a weird way.
-
- > The following quotes are from _What A Young Man Ought To Know_,
- >by Sylvanus Stall, D.D., a 1904 edition of a book copyrighted 1897. ...
-
- > This first is an anecdote of an anxious father taking a young
- >son to a physician:
-
- On discovering that a child neither knew the value of money
- nor knew how to pray, the doctor stated:
-
- > 'Young gentlemen, the absence of these two qualities, the one
- > intellectual and the other moral, are clear indications of idiocy,
- > and the absence of either one makes the sanity of a child a
- > question of grave doubt. [...] to pray is as natural to a child
- > as the desire for food.'
-
- Speaking as someone without any religious upbringing (thank
- whatever deities there are), I wonder why I didn't pray ;-)
-
-
- > On the subject of novels:
-
- [On how they are so defiling, in the fashion of masturbation,
- that nobody below 25 should be allowed to read one...]
-
- > And the arts:
-
- [Get rid of any nudity, even if it (dis)graces the walls of
- art galleries and rich people's mansions...]
-
- > Premarital sex with one's bride-to-be:
-
- [Why one should not have sex with a woman so whorish as to be
- willing to have sex with a man she isn't married to...]
-
- > Dancing:
-
- [How raunchy and stimulating it is...]
-
- > [Hmmm, score one for Dr. Stall :-)]
-
- I agree.
-
- > Theatre:
-
- > Here the low, the drunken, and the sensual hiss at what
- > is pure and holy, and applaud that which appeals to their basest
- > passions.
-
- > Card-playing (with or without betting):
-
- [How one will become degraded in various ways...]
-
- I once looked inside the commentary inside a Bible, and I saw
- a list of questions and Bible answers from it. Aside from the usual
- theological boilerplate, like "How can I know that the Bible is true",
- there was something on why card playing was supposed to be so wicked.
- I looked at the indicated Biblical reference, and all I found was some
- vague reference to rejecting the "things of this world". Well,
- card-playing is nowhere mentioned in the Bible...
-
- > Overall, the book spends most of its length on the horrors of
- >venereal disease, and of masturbation, to which it attributes mental and
- >physical illness.
-
- And I always thought it only caused hairy palms :-)
-
- It is not frank enough to discuss details of the
- >marriage bed, as the other recently-posted excerpt did. Another reason,
- >perhaps, to doubt the authenticity of that excerpt. But it is as vivid
- >in its description of the effects of syphilis as any army training film.
-
- It's worth noting that this little book was written before
- antibiotics were discovered, when syphilis was as feared as AIDS is
- today. But syphilis did not stop people from having a lot of sex, and
- one probably should not expect AIDS to.
-
- I wonder if this doctor considered syphilis a punishment for
- the sins of those afflicted with it. I know that there are some who
- view AIDS in that same light.
-
-