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- From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
- Subject: Re: MacKinnon (was Re: Please explain this quote)
- Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
- Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:20:00 GMT
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- References: <1992Nov3.080955.22573@netcom.com> <1992Nov8.005606.24686@netcom.com> <1992Nov11.233553.19019@panix.com>
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- As quoted from <1992Nov11.233553.19019@panix.com> by gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch):
-
- > 2. Is MacKinnon the biggest threat to free speech around?
- > Prior to the election, I would have said that the
- > totalitarian social reactionaries represented by Robertson
- > and Buchanan were more serious, since they were much closer
- > to the levers of power, and Bush appeared to be a Von Papen
- > type, an opportunist with no visible principles beyond
- > immediate political advantage. With the defeat of Bush, we
- > can hope that the Republicans will drive the totalitarians
- > out of their party. In any case, they're out of power for
- > awhile (except for the some of the judiciary). So it may
- > be that the kind of person Kenn says MacKinnon is will
- > become more important.
- >
- "Biggest"? Hard to say. Of course it's kind of moot, since there isn't a
- dime's worth of difference between the people that you note and MacKinnon
- herself. In fact in various places, the ultra-radical feminist left and the
- religious right have joined together in a loathsome marriage of convenience.
-
- Andrea Dworkin and Donald Wildmon in bed together. Now THAT'S the ULTIMATE
- obscenity.... :(
-
- > 5. On what _Playboy_ is really all about...
- > kb:
- > | Then try reading it instead of just looking at the pictures.
- > | Playboy is quite political, with a liberal though not radical bias.
- >
- > If you'd like to send me, say, 20 or 30 recent issues, I'd
- > be glad to analyze it more closely. I'm certainly not going
- > to go out and buy them. And I can't examine them at the
- > library because, according to a librarian I asked about it,
- > there is no way they can protect the magazines from having
- > all of the pages torn or cut out in a matter of hours. This
- > means something, although I'm not sure exactly what. Rabid
- > anti-pornographers ripping them out with their teeth,
- > perhaps....
-
- Of course all of this is beside the point, since it doesn't matter if it's
- "political" or not, and there's nobody I trust to determine if it IS. There's
- NO requirement for any periodical to embody ANY great truths. And if *I* got
- make those determinations the way the MacKinnons of the world want to (and I
- was so inclined), you'd have to get used to limiting your reading to "New
- Republic", "International Defense Review", "Players Pictorial" and a select
- few other august publications. Fortunately I DON'T have that power, nor would
- I use it. Of course adherents of millenarian philosphies rarely consider
- forebearance a positive trait....
-
- >
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