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- Path: sparky!uunet!microsoft!hexnut!jenk
- From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer)
- Subject: Re: Child Support
- Message-ID: <1992Nov16.081048.19399@microsoft.com>
- Date: 16 Nov 92 08:10:48 GMT
- Organization: Microsoft Corporation
- References: <Bxo2n5.BIJ@cs.psu.edu> <1992Nov15.041315.7218@microsoft.com> <1992Nov16.001531.25073@ils.nwu.edu>
- Keywords: abortion
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- In article <1992Nov16.001531.25073@ils.nwu.edu> lynch@ils.nwu.edu (Richard Lynch) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov15.041315.7218@microsoft.com> jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer) writes:
- >>My assumption...which my hypothetical plan is an attempt to legislate...
- >>is that I miss a period or two; I check with the doctor; the doctor
- >>tells me; I tell him; he tells me what he wants; if he's in, we do
- >>it jointly; if he's out, I take a hard look at myself and my finances
- >>and I decide if I'm in or out.
- >
- > [examples of two who did it that way gone.]
- >
- >Yes, but it is your *choice* to tell the father, and your *choice* to listen to
- >what he wants. The assumptions Don makes are completely consistent with your
- >idea of how it works and your examples, it's just that with *your* personal
- >values/ethics, you've only mapped out how *you* would do it [and how your
- >friends did it]. I believe this is how *most* honorable people, in *most*
- >cases would behave.
-
- I agree. It is also my choice to grab a knife and shove it in
- someone's back. It is also my choice to get drunk every night.
- It is also my choice to lie. It is also my choice to accuse someone
- of rape (perjury). It is also my choice to practice insider trading.
- It is also my choice to drive my car off a bridge if I'm unhappy.
- It is also my choice to rape someone. Anyone can do anything they
- want that they are physically able to do.
-
- >Needless to say, others might do things a little differently...
-
- Naturally. The world is full of people who choose to act in
- violent and/or destructive and/or hateful ways.
-
- >For a personal example, try to think of somebody you know who *wouldn't* tell
- >the father...
-
- IE, a total and complete shithead? Or a rape/abuse victim? Or
- the girlfriend who's lover has told her repeatedly that he doesn't
- want any more kids, and who's told me that if she gets pregnant,
- she'll get an abortion and may not even tell him?
-
- :> I guess the point I'm trying to make is that while yes, anyone
- can do anything that they want to do and are physically capable of
- doing, that there are limits imposed by society and/or self.
-
- If I went out on a date with you, you could probably rape me.
- If we had sex and I got pregnant, I could probably not tell you.
- Problem with dealing with humans is that it does require some trust.
-
- >--
- >"TANSTAAFL" Rich lynch@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu
-
- -jen
-