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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: Secretly Wishing... (was: Feminist Jokes)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov15.224205.3863@netcom.com>
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- References: <misdeva-101192161736@morse-college-kstar-node.net.yale.edu> <1992Nov12.191443.1768@netcom.com> <1992Nov13.130552.16091@panix.com>
- Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:42:05 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov13.130552.16091@panix.com> gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch) writes:
- >payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
- >| [ about feminist light-bulb jokes ]
- >| >> None of it has been funny. But I would like to point out another
- >| >> anti-symmetry in these feminist arguments. (did i invent a new word?)
- >| >> In another thread, it was pointed out that women who are self confident
- >| >> could care less what the models look like, while those who are insecure
- >| >> may well feel threatened. This was taken as an attack the victim post
- >| >> by at least one person, and I suspect more to follow. In another thread
- >| >> it was directly asserted that any male who feels threatened by feminism
- >| >> is obviously not getting enough sex, because it could only be the result
- >| >> of sexual frustration. None of the other feminists commented on this.
- >| [ Devjani asks who/what ]
- >| Well, Gorden Fitch has owned up to posting it, I had forgotted who.
- >| If you want to call his posts flame bait, fine with me.
- >
- >Just for the sake of accuracy: I did not, to my recollection,
- >post anything that said that "any male who feels threatened
- >by feminism is obviously not getting enough sex...." so I
- >could not own up to such a statement. Like Devjani, I don't
- >know where you're getting this from; it's probably either
- >somebody else, or you're misreading something I said. If
- >you still have the text available, please send it to me by
- >email or post it.
- >--
- >
- > )*( Gordon Fitch )*( gcf@panix.com )*(
- >( 1238 Blg. Grn. Sta., NY NY 10274 * 718.273.5556 )
-
- Apologies, I got you confused with David Auer, which is odd.
-
- I am reposting his reply. I finally found it with a keyword search of the
- word "said". Curiously, there were 159 posts with this word, more than any
- other keyword search that I have done. And after looking through 6,000
- out of 11,000 lines to find the post I wanted, I saw less duplication.
-
- Re-post to follow.
-
-
- Rich
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- payner@netcom.com
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- |From: auer@cs.swarthmore.edu (David S. Auer)
- |Newsgroups: alt.feminism
- |Subject: Re: Secretly Wishing... (was: Feminist Jokes)
- |Message-ID: <JGZSB5HB@cc.swarthmore.edu>
- |Date: 10 Nov 92 07:00:15 GMT
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- |In article <1992Nov10.003315.23302@netcom.com> payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
- |[...]
- |>None of it has been funny. But I would like to point out another
- |>anti-symmetry in these feminist arguments. (did i invent a new word?)
- |
- |Undoubtably.
- |
- |>In another thread, it was pointed out that women who are self confident
- |>could care less what the models look like, while those who are insecure
- |>may well feel threatened. This was taken as an attack the victim post
- |>by at least one person, and I suspect more to follow.
- |
- |How prophetic!
- |
- |> In another thread
- |>it was directly asserted that any male who feels threatened by feminism
- |>is obviously not getting enough sex, because it could only be the result
- |>of sexual frustration. None of the other feminists commented on this.
- |
- |As author of said attack, I must protest that you were overgeneralizing my
- |attack to all males. It was an indirect assertion at best and was
- |related to your argument that there was a scarcity of available women.
- |This context has gotten lost in the above synopsis.
- |
- |[More contrasts between male and female victims...]
- |
- |With this I agree. Men and women who are victimized should be equally
- |defended. I came to your defense at least when I apologized for that attack,
- |publically, I might add.
- |
- |-dave
- |
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