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- From: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu (David Steinberg)
- Subject: Re: Gay Marriages?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov22.033714.24833@nmsu.edu>
- Keywords: marriage, 14th Amendment, gays, lesbians
- Sender: usenet@nmsu.edu
- Organization: New Mexico State University
- References: <19375@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> <19377@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>
- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:37:14 GMT
- Lines: 42
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- In article <19377@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> watnik@fisher.ucdavis.edu
- (Mitchell Watnik) writes:
- >
- >Dear Rush Limbaugh fans, foes and others:
- >My friend and I have spent a great deal of time recently arguing over the
- >legal recognition of gay marriages. Unfortunately, our arguments have
- >turned into either trivializations of the subject or just a simple
- >difference of opinions. I would like to hear arguments for and against
- >LEGAL RECOGNITION of gay marriages (not the idea of the marriage itself or
- >moral issues-- I am pretty close to Libertarian in my politics and I've
- >granted my friend the point that government should not enforce morality or
- >enter into people's bedrooms).
- >
- >For example: My friend argues that the 14th Amendment provides that all
- >citizens should have the same rights and privileges. He says that gays'
- >14th Amendment rights are violated since they do not enjoy the privilege
- >of marrying the person of their choice. I've argued against this point 3
- >ways. First, the legal definition of marriage currently says that
- >marriage includes one member of each sex and everybody DOES enjoy this
- >privilege (he claims that this does not let them include the person of
- >their choice). Second, if choice is the issue, I argue that this
- >"privilege" (which I say he's drawing out of thin air: "Where does it say
- >that you have the right to get married to whomever you want?") since I am
- >not entitled to marry, say, "that pretty woman over there" (he talks about
- >mutual consent, to which I respond (admittedly feebly) that then we could
- >address inter-species marriage).
- (stuff deleted)
- How about the fact that you can't marry more than one person at the
- same time. Here is the state putting forth a restriction on a
- (potentally) mutually consented marriage. The logic could go, if they
- can stop one, why not the other. Being libertarian minded myself, I
- personally don't think they should stop either. But that seems to be a
- consistent argument for outlawing homosexual marriage...
- -David "ZZYZX" Steinberg- King of the ellipses
- (dsteinbe@emmy.nmsu.edu)
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